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    Posted: 16 Jan 2023 at 00:44
Hello,

Illyriad has been the subject of heated discussion, accusations, and tentatively verified (on individual cases as much as player to player will allow) on the scourge of multi-accounting beyond what the ruleset permits for years. This issue has plagued both continents within the server on what accounts to cheating with an unfair advantage versus legitimate players that stay within the ruleset.

I am asking with this petition for the Developers to conduct an investigation with these claims into the playerbase of the game, and to make a statement on the status of these multi-accounts within the playerbase that has lost faith that there is only a small percentage of active players participating in violating the ruleset.

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I second this. It's an issue that needs to be fixed, and with deliberate action. Or an admission. If players can legally have more than 2 accounts. That needs to be voiced. At some point down the line, you're going to run into a player with 4, 20 city accounts that will illegally be able to do something that a player with 2, 20 city accounts could. Either make it fair and allow for more, or abide by your own rules and start penalizing those players. 

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Duran covers my opinion pretty well- enforce, or legalise. 
This is the thread that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some person started it, not knowing what it was, and we'll continue posting on it forever just because...
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WTF is this? Is this a thing. Are the DEVs allowing a player more than 2 accounts, or just ignoring the violation? I don't know about the other players, but I'd like to see a response here from them.
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Originally posted by eowan the short eowan the short wrote:

Duran covers my opinion pretty well- enforce, or legalise. 


Same for me. I would heavily prefer enforcing though or at least still limit the amount of accounts you can have (maybe 3 or 5?).

Following some background on my side. I had quite a bit of suspicious activities but never enough proof to really come forward with this. The activities are suspicious but only the developers can prove wether it was multi-accounting/password-sharing or not.

Case 1:

Over the years i bought more then 100 terraforms. I had phases were i pushed a lot of cities in a short time and required a lot of terraforms. I posted a message in GC that i am looking to buy (a lot of) terraforms. A player i did not know until then contacted me an offered me a lot of terraforms (5+ in a week for multiple weeks). I agreed and got the terraforms. Most of them were quite suspicious though - the accounts were active for sometimes multiple months (and at least weeks) and they usually did not abandon immediately after they were finished (sometimes it took multiple weeks).

The first time this happened was a few years ago. Then it happened around a year ago with a different contact person but the same pattern. A few month ago i learned that my contact accounts were apparently "associated".

Case 2:

As some players know we had some issues with a player stealing from us some time ago. Before stealing that player went inactive. At the same time at least 10 other accounts (that i found in different alliances) went inactive. Then a few weeks later all those accounts "woke" up at the same time and showed regular growth again. The player has a reputation as "multi-accounter" in the community already - this just seems to support it.

Case 3:

While trading at Centrum there was a player (that probably had 2 accounts already - one i know for sure) that created an account, sold me 5-6 Tomes and then grew the account. This happened at least 3 times. The player later quit and all the accounts went inactive at the same time.

Conclusion:

Those are the most obvious cases. There are a lot more i know of and there are a lot of other suspicious activities (e.g. in general a lot of accounts having no growth/change for multiple years). I am glad to share more details with the developers if needed.

Illyriad is meant to allow breaks (via sitters) and perma-sitters are common. This system is limited by the amount of sitters an account can have and most of the players that have sitters come back from time to time.

Multi-accounting and sharing passwords does not have a limit and thus needs to be enforced by the developers. It is a huge advantage and problem. In my opinion a few players already abuse it quite a bit and that needs to be fixed!




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As with AoA, Illyriad is facing development issues.  The only way they can survive is if enough people buy prestige. Anything else is of secondary importance. If the multi account perpetrators are the ones buying lots of prestige, then don't hold your breath waiting for something to be done about it.
I have religiously kept to the 2 account limit ever since the devs introduced it officially.
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If the multiaccounting rule cannot be enforced, abandon the rule. This won't prevent unfair advantage, but at least it will be one of means rather than scruples.
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For me is one way , enforse the rule . If they try they can do it .
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Originally posted by Dungshoveleux Dungshoveleux wrote:

As with AoA, Illyriad is facing development issues.  The only way they can survive is if enough people buy prestige. Anything else is of secondary importance. If the multi account perpetrators are the ones buying lots of prestige, then don't hold your breath waiting for something to be done about it.
I have religiously kept to the 2 account limit ever since the devs introduced it officially.
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If enforcing isn't viable for reasons either financial or technical, then legalise.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jan 2023 at 02:39
Historically, people complaining about multi-accounting usually occurs before a war.

The multi-accounting doesn't change, but the complaining about it does.

Who's going to war this time?
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