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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 19:15
I sure wish we could block "players" in the forum like we can in GC.  :(
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 18:39
To everyone but artorius.

This is a recruitment thread and you are all being disrespectful by flooding it with this no end debate that has gone way off topic.
If I was a leader of an alliance trying to gather new members I would be pretty...annoyed by now.

Take it to the Caravanserai.

PA is a great alliance with helpful competent members, and any new player would be lucky to be part of such a loyal and steadfast alliance.

Cheers!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 18:18
Originally posted by Divine Redemption Divine Redemption wrote:



I am kind of torn right now... Do I want some of the members of Curse to get sieged or do I want roller and his friends?

So here I am a spy now.  A player that was taken to school in the politic department.  A player that has learned from those episodes.  A player that will not make the same mistake again. 



Oh how I feel for you DR/LH I really do. One thing though you refer to yourself as a player. I don't see any account ingame so you are not " a player" are you?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 18:16
Originally posted by Darkwords Darkwords wrote:


In what way am I discrediting Lorre or PA here, the only reason we have mentioned Lorre is that YOU brought him up.

I am merely asking why PA have A) not elected a new leader... and B) if they are unable to do so, why not reform as a new alliance.

I am not out to put them down, just asking legitimate questions, which you for some unknown reason seem to take offence at.

If you knew the History of the VALAR and how our alliance came into existance you would realise that what I am proposing is actually good advice in my eyes.

We reformed from an alliance and due to the fact that we had a new alliance which only included active players, we grew to a great strength so quickly that it shocked us.

Your first response was not a request for information, nor was it to reform under a new banner:

When an alliance leader gives up on the game without electing a new leader, shouldn't the alliance members look elsewhere?

Only when others started to express their support in PA did you deem it necessary to clarify.  You further seem to be taking the support of PA to preclude the changing of their name, or reforming under a new alliance.

"The fact that they could all on mass move to a new alliance which they would have full control over, makes the choice to remain look either very stupid, or very suspicious."

To which I responded bringing up Lorre for the first time:

Lorre has been gone less then a week.  
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I see nothing stupid or suspicious with regards to giving the current members and leadership time to resolve their internal issues over a course suggesting to flee like rats from a sinking ship.  

In fact, I find the course of action on you are suggesting premature and the more suspicious.  

---That is when your Alliance leader posted: 

PA will never be the same without Lorre. Lorre was a great leader but i would like to make it known that he led a campaign of hate and bad propaganda against the Valar. With Lorre gone, and I hope FOREVER, i am personally looking forward to more harmonious relationships with PA or whatever its members decide it will or has to become and I will wish the new leadership success in its endeavours. 

If Lorre comes back, then sad to say, nothing will have changed. 

Which you have failed to recognize the following part:  
whatever its members decide it will or has to become and I will wish the new leadership success in its endeavours.

Finally, I will now return to the Berberos affair to show you that you are every bit as guilty as you have been proclaiming Lorre to have been...  Coming to Global for answers because IGM go unanswered and then not giving PA time to resolve their issues.  I will also add that my interpretation based on your word choice suggests an attempt to discredit the membership of PA.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 18:09
Originally posted by Ander Ander wrote:

Originally posted by Darkwords Darkwords wrote:


As I have said we were ready to kick duq, I was the sitter on his account and found a number of mails in his sent box where he was trying to create anymosity against our alliance as he himself had decided to go down in a blaze of glory and was intending to take the alliance down with him.
  
I keep very high regard for Lorre and thinks very highly of him for defending Berberos. 

But I appreciate very much that you took time to share your views with me. Please pardon any rudeness from my side. Smile


np ander, but as i pointed out, at the time we let the GC know that if Lorre backed down we would have resolved the matter ourselves.  It was his aggression that caused much of the problem, that combined with the fact AZ was away for sometime, so we were not able to sort it before Lorre began his campaign.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 18:03
Originally posted by Darkwords Darkwords wrote:


As I have said we were ready to kick duq, I was the sitter on his account and found a number of mails in his sent box where he was trying to create anymosity against our alliance as he himself had decided to go down in a blaze of glory and was intending to take the alliance down with him.
  
I keep very high regard for Lorre and thinks very highly of him for defending Berberos. 

But I appreciate very much that you took time to share your views with me. Please pardon any rudeness from my side. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 17:49
I think a PA representative did address the concerns by posting the recruitment thread.  I think it suggests that they have decided to go ahead with the current situation and/or are working on resolving it internally.

Further, I question your want to have the concern as you see it actually addressed over your glee in jumping on a perceived opportunity to discredit PA and/or Lorre.

That is all....
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In what way am I discrediting Lorre or PA here, the only reason we have mentioned Lorre is that YOU brought him up.

I am merely asking why PA have A) not elected a new leader... and B) if they are unable to do so, why not reform as a new alliance.

I am not out to put them down, just asking legitimate questions, which you for some unknown reason seem to take offence at.

If you knew the History of the VALAR and how our alliance came into existance you would realise that what I am proposing is actually good advice in my eyes.

We reformed from an alliance and due to the fact that we had a new alliance which only included active players, we grew to a great strength so quickly that it shocked us.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 17:42
Originally posted by Ander Ander wrote:

Originally posted by Darkwords Darkwords wrote:

The whole Berberos affair, which in the eyes of the VALAR was actually the 'Duq affair' would have been sorted as soon as AZ had sorted his RL problems out and returned, were it not for Lorre's intervention.

But are you hinting that berberos would have been safe even if Lorre or Createure had not helped him? That Valar would have stopped the siege on Berberos even if no one from the community had intervened? 


As I have said we were ready to kick duq, I was the sitter on his account and found a number of mails in his sent box where he was trying to create anymosity against our alliance as he himself had decided to go down in a blaze of glory and was intending to take the alliance down with him.

Berberos was not the only newbe he was bullying and he was doing so to try and bring alliances against us which he succeeded in doing in the case of Lorre.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 17:41
Originally posted by Darkwords Darkwords wrote:

And for good reason.

However I am not sure what any of this has to do with the fact about PA being leaderless and what they should do about that issue.

Infact I have no clue why you brought up the duq/berberos matter.

Hopefully a PA representative can address the concerns over this soon.



I think a PA representative did address the concerns by posting the recruitment thread.  I think it suggests that they have decided to go ahead with the current situation and/or are working on resolving it internally.

Further, I question your want to have the concern as you see it actually addressed over your glee in jumping on a perceived opportunity to discredit PA and/or Lorre.

That is all....



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 17:39
Originally posted by Darkwords Darkwords wrote:

 

Infact I have no clue why you brought up the duq/berberos matter.


I was wondering why this question hasn't come up yet. Direct it to Az, why he chose to make a derogatory comment about PA's founder in this thread -

Originally posted by Azreil Azreil wrote:

Lorre was a great leader but i would like to make it known that he led a campaign of hate and bad propaganda against the Valar. 




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