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Darkwords
Postmaster General
Joined: 23 May 2011
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Topic: Persona Armoniosa is Recruiting Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 00:48 |
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When an alliance leader gives up on the game without electing a new leader, shouldn't the alliance members look elsewhere?
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
Location: California
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Points: 6903
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Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 00:49 |
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Are you questioning artorious's qualifications as a leader, Darkwords? He seems like a capable player to me.
Edited by Rill - 19 Sep 2011 at 00:50
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Gratch
Wordsmith
Joined: 18 Nov 2010
Location: England
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Points: 150
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Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 01:25 |
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If that's the case, why are there so many alliances which were created by one member who left still continuing? :P I don't get that reasoning at all. That's like saying "Hey the Queen is dead, let's all move to France..." O.o
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Divine Redemption
Greenhorn
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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Points: 68
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Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 02:32 |
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If in fact Lorre has left the game.... Then why is he still the leader of the alliance? This makes me think he is not leaving the game and perhaps is only taking a break for a bit. However, if he has in fact left the game for good, there is no reason to be in alliance when a player that has left the game is still the leader. An alliance needs that position to be active to do diplomacy and control member options.
So Dark was right, if he has in fact left the game, why not create a new alliance with the same players so you can use the leader position for use... Or better yet, contact Lorre so he can promote someone.
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Manannan
Postmaster
Joined: 22 Mar 2011
Location: Mystical Mists
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Points: 576
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Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 02:43 |
Gratch wrote:
If that's the case, why are there so many alliances which were created by one member who left still continuing? :P I don't get that reasoning at all. That's like saying "Hey the Queen is dead, let's all move to France..." O.o |
Agree with Gratch in that just because a leader of a founder leaves there is no need to all up sticks and join or become a new alliance. Sometimes the departure of a leader can make an alliance even stronger than it was before.
Just one point though Gratch.... Were you calling Lorre a Queen? 
Apologies for the off subject observation.
On a serious note and if you are new to Illyriad and looking looking through the recruitment forum at the moment for an alliance {PA} is a great place to start, with good leaders who are very helpful with advice and resources.
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Doesn't look good... doesn't look bad either!
"Manananananananananan, so long Sir, and thanks for all the fish." ~ St.Jude
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Divine Redemption
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Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 02:48 |
Manannan wrote:
Gratch wrote:
If that's the case, why are there so many alliances which were created by one member who left still continuing? :P I don't get that reasoning at all. That's like saying "Hey the Queen is dead, let's all move to France..." O.o |
Agree with Gratch in that just because a leader of a founder leaves there is no need to all up sticks and join or become a new alliance. Sometimes the departure of a leader can make an alliance even stronger than it was before.
Just one point though Gratch.... Were you calling Lorre a Queen? 
Apologies for the off subject observation.
On a serious note and if you are new to Illyriad and looking looking through the recruitment forum at the moment for an alliance {PA} is a great place to start, with good leaders who are very helpful with advice and resources. |
However, Lorre is still the leader of that alliance, which makes being in that alliance pointless if he is no longer playing and still in control of the alliance as the leader (afk). I do think it is fine to continue an alliance when a leader has left only if the leader has left the alliance or promoted someone to take his or her place. None of these have happen yet, so either wait a month to see if he comes back or find a new alliance.
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
Location: California
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Points: 6903
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Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 03:57 |
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The term schadenfreude comes to mind ... whatever Lorre has going on, I imagine that his alliance mates have made a decision to continue in his footsteps. To their credit.
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Divine Redemption
Greenhorn
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
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Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 05:07 |
Rill wrote:
The term schadenfreude comes to mind ... whatever Lorre has going on, I imagine that his alliance mates have made a decision to continue in his footsteps. To their credit. |
To their credit? An active member needs to be in the leader role! Any member that stays in this alliance will be making a very stupid choice if Lorre is not coming back. It is pretty selfish of Lorre to not promote any player to his leader role or leave the alliance if he is indeed not coming back. When leeroy680 was the leader of Wolves of the Plains (now called Curse), he decided to quit the game. And when he did leave, he promoted Iduna to take over as the leader role instead of just leaving his account AFK as the leader. I am pretty sure all the players would have left the alliance if leeroy680 would have kept himself as the AFK leader over a period of time. I would have. The members in Lorre's alliance seem loyal enough to give him back the leader role if he ever decides to come back.
Edited by Divine Redemption - 19 Sep 2011 at 05:09
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Kilotov of DokGthung
Postmaster
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Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 05:25 |
Divine Redemption wrote:
Rill wrote:
The term schadenfreude comes to mind ... whatever Lorre has going on, I imagine that his alliance mates have made a decision to continue in his footsteps. To their credit. |
To their credit? An active member needs to be in the leader role! Any member that stays in this alliance will be making a very stupid choice if Lorre is not coming back. It is pretty selfish of Lorre to not promote any player to his leader role or leave the alliance if he is indeed not coming back.
When leeroy680 was the leader of Wolves of the Plains (now called Curse), he decided to quit the game. And when he did leave, he promoted Iduna to take over as the leader role instead of just leaving his account AFK as the leader. I am pretty sure all the players would have left the alliance if leeroy680 would have kept himself as the AFK leader over a period of time. I would have.
The members in Lorre's alliance seem loyal enough to give him back the leader role if he ever decides to come back.
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may you tell us your ingame name?
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Gratch
Wordsmith
Joined: 18 Nov 2010
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 150
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Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 09:50 |
Manannan wrote:
Gratch wrote:
If that's the case, why are there so many alliances which were created by one member who left still continuing? :P I don't get that reasoning at all. That's like saying "Hey the Queen is dead, let's all move to France..." O.o |
Agree with Gratch in that just because a leader of a founder leaves there is no need to all up sticks and join or become a new alliance. Sometimes the departure of a leader can make an alliance even stronger than it was before.
Just one point though Gratch.... Were you calling Lorre a Queen? 
Apologies for the off subject observation.
On a serious note and if you are new to Illyriad and looking looking through the recruitment forum at the moment for an alliance {PA} is a great place to start, with good leaders who are very helpful with advice and resources. |
...Maybe >.>
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