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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2012 at 15:33
I'm sure it will be very satisfying for H? to accept all those surrenders.
Assuming the other side gives them of course.
Lesson from history though....for those who care...

After WW1 the winners hit the losers hard and humiliated them so badly that it festered for many years and was one of the primary cause of WW2.  The Versailles treaty it was called.
It never really pays in the long run to humiliate anyone, WW2 was far worse in every respect than the war which preceded it.
 
And I don't think anyone really came out a winner from it in the long run.
Just something to think about maybe....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2012 at 16:21
Hmm,  peace sounds nice, and I for my part would stop defending as soon as no sieges are coming to Consone towns. That's my (quite simple) terms for peace. If H? thinks about similar ones, the war might be over right now... (would even buy them one beer, or even two, if they agree Smile).

Originally posted by gameplayer gameplayer wrote:

wars, in a war game do last a long time and yes several of us have an end game. if certain groups want out they can surrender and accept terms or they can switch sides to speed the end. back to making troops, weapons, and all the war stuff, gosh at this time we cant make plows!

If you want to switch sides, you're welcome to join us LOL

Quitting the war is fine by me, but changing sides might be bad PR for an alliance... at least regarding the side they left... Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2012 at 16:27
Originally posted by Darmon Darmon wrote:

Wouldn't there still need to be some sort of peace treaty that lays out practical plans to end the war, and put policies into place to avoid similar escalations in the future?

...plan to end the war:  Both sides stop sending out armies. Simple as that  Wink

...policies to avoid this in future:  Both sides should talk, and give a chance for reparations and diplomacy before sending sieges and stuff...  Simple as that, and all other plans would only be more complex variations of that... LOL 
And sadly there can't be any guarranties for any side following such a policy Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2012 at 16:31
yes, i hear the other side has cute guys but this side has more drunks, at least happier drunks, good luck in the upcoming offensive. i will say this, i am learning alot about the different war functions....this game is so awesome....grins with bloody fangs....best browser war game ive ever played...good luck in the peace thing...puke puke puke
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2012 at 16:38
Originally posted by Vibs Vibs wrote:

Been reading about this war for what seems like forever right now. No goal for victory from either side. No condition for a cease fire. No conditions for peace. Just talks of peace, honor, alliance/confed bashing etc etc. 

Hath is the only person I have seen trying to broker peace well before everyone went all out with the war. I commend him for that and to sticking to the line of peace, while fighting for the defence of his alliance and confed through out this entire period. 
Vibs, you are woefully ill-informed.

True diplomacy takes place in private.  The forum and GC are just for drama and "spin."

There are goals.  Terms have been given to each alliance requesting same.  Some have accepted, many have refused.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2012 at 16:42
Originally posted by Hora Hora wrote:

Originally posted by Darmon Darmon wrote:

Wouldn't there still need to be some sort of peace treaty that lays out practical plans to end the war, and put policies into place to avoid similar escalations in the future?

...plan to end the war:  Both sides stop sending out armies. Simple as that  Wink

...policies to avoid this in future:  Both sides should talk, and give a chance for reparations and diplomacy before sending sieges and stuff...  Simple as that, and all other plans would only be more complex variations of that... LOL 
And sadly there can't be any guarranties for any side following such a policy Confused
LOL

RES tried that and Consone refused to make a deal with RES leaving RES only the path of war to eliminate the perpetual bullying by Consone.  

Consone has no credibility with this idea of talking out a problem.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2012 at 17:16
Originally posted by Arian Arian wrote:

I'm sure it will be very satisfying for H? to accept all those surrenders.
Assuming the other side gives them of course.
Lesson from history though....for those who care...

After WW1 the winners hit the losers hard and humiliated them so badly that it festered for many years and was one of the primary cause of WW2.  The Versailles treaty it was called.
It never really pays in the long run to humiliate anyone, WW2 was far worse in every respect than the war which preceded it.
 
And I don't think anyone really came out a winner from it in the long run.
Just something to think about maybe....


You have several bad assumptions in your post - let me list some of them:

1) War is bad
2) Everyone dislikes war.
3) This game is like real life.
4) This game is not about building the troops and materiel for war and then using them.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2012 at 17:22
Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

 

You have several bad assumptions in your post - let me list some of them:

1) War is bad
2) Everyone dislikes war.
3) This game is like real life.
4) This game is not about building the troops and materiel for war and then using them.




I certainly do agree that Illy is not like RL but then why do you  want RL like secret peace negotiations and why can't they take place in public forums.
You can begin by stating your war goals (becoz I fail to see any)

Edited by Gossip Boy - 31 Dec 2012 at 17:22
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2012 at 18:07
Gossip boy, why do you assume that the peace negotiations are any of your business? 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Dec 2012 at 18:19
Originally posted by Tordenkaffen Tordenkaffen wrote:

Gossip boy, why do you assume that the peace negotiations are any of your business? 


Plus don't you find it funny when a person hiding behind an alias and does not write with his actual game nickname, calls for other to be forthright and public about everything .?. LOL LOL
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