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Nokigon 
Postmaster General
Player Council - Historian
Joined: 07 Nov 2010
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Points: 1452
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 Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 17:14 |
I must
admit, when I read that I had to laugh. If anyone has ever thought that
Kumomoto chains me to a desk and forces me to write about the glorious
victories of Harmless- well, to quote Darkwords from another thread that Ossian started....
de·lu·sion (d -l  zh n)n.
1. a. The act or process of deluding. b. The state of being deluded. 2. A false belief or opinion: labored under the delusion that success was at hand. 3. Psychiatry A false belief strongly held in spite of invalidating evidence, especially as a symptom of mental illness: delusions of persecution.
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Jane DarkMagic
Postmaster
Joined: 10 Sep 2011
Location: Tennessee
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Points: 554
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Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 17:16 |
 Ossian wrote:
For those Consone members who are considering neutrailty by joining the Crow federation - that option was blocked a long time ago by ScottFitz ( who has never been neutral). It was recently confirmed in a post from a crow member that those who belonged to alliances hostile to the Coalition would not be accepted into Crowfed.
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As recruitment officer for mcrow, of which scottfitz is leader, I can confirm that this is ridiculous. We have not denied membership to anyone due to the war. As individual players, we all have friends on both sides of it. Don't you have enough enemies in-game without trying to create new ones with your spurious claims?
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Ander
Postmaster General
Joined: 24 Apr 2011
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Points: 1269
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Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 17:28 |
Vanerin wrote:
If Consone has not even made an account for the embassy, then I totally agree with you Deranzin. (Nice for that to happen every once in a while  )
To Consone: I understand your concerns about 'unfair' conditions, but what type of conditions do you think you will get if you do not discuss with the proper people? It is one thing to go to their embassy and find the conditions to be unreasonable. It is another thing to not even try.
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Jasche and Hathaldir (and a few other consone leaders) have accounts in H embassy. You have seen how the coalition leaders talk in public, I leave it to your imagination how they talked with us in their private room.
I dont have even a 1% hope of a peaceful resolution. I take Kumo's words on that [06:53]<Kumomoto> The only way out of this is that this mega coalition falls.
The conditions that came from their embassy so far includes exactly what Grego said - voluntarly razing more cities than is lost in war so far, giving all gold and an insane amount of T2 and T3 resources to Harmless, and forswear friends and allies.
There are things worse than just loosing cities and having to start over.
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Ander
Postmaster General
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Points: 1269
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Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 17:39 |
Jane DarkMagic wrote:
Ossian wrote:
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Don't you have enough enemies in-game without trying to create new ones with your spurious claims? |
Do you know who Ossian is in-game?
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Jane DarkMagic
Postmaster
Joined: 10 Sep 2011
Location: Tennessee
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Points: 554
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Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 17:58 |
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No, I was speaking of Consone in general. Though I'd be happy to find out if you know!
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Kumomoto
Postmaster General
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
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Points: 2224
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Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 18:26 |
Ander wrote:
Jane DarkMagic wrote:
Ossian wrote:
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Don't you have enough enemies in-game without trying to create new ones with your spurious claims? |
Do you know who Ossian is in-game?
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He's clearly a Souper...
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Alti (SkB)
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Joined: 20 Oct 2012
Location: Tor Carrock
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Points: 17
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Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 18:44 |
Deranzin wrote:
Alti wrote:
Yes, we were intimidated by your allies, who had a leadership that then was not keeping some of its players in line, and so we prepared for the worst. |
I do not think that you read that part correctly ... it is actually quite the opposite, but anyway ... 
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Oh, really? Tell me, how do you know what passed between RHY and ourselves? I seem to recall being involved in about 1/4 of the negotiations and forwarded much of the rest. No doubt you had more privileged access.
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Ander
Postmaster General
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Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 19:08 |
Jane DarkMagic wrote:
No, I was speaking of Consone in general. |
Please do not consider anonymous members as speaking for consone or reflecting consone views.
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Deranzin
Postmaster
Joined: 10 Oct 2011
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Points: 845
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Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 20:47 |
Ander wrote:
Jasche and Hathaldir (and a few other consone leaders) have accounts in H embassy. |
Yeah, with 4-7 posts ... must have been much talking going on there ...
Ander wrote:
The conditions that came from their embassy so far includes exactly what Grego said - voluntarly razing more cities than is lost in war so far, giving all gold and an insane amount of T2 and T3 resources to Harmless, and forswear friends and allies.
There are things worse than just loosing cities and having to start over. |
Ok, some points : - How did Roads get such a different deal - and much better - than the one you are talking about .?. - How can you raze your own cities .?. - What does "all gold" mean .?. How much is that .?. - Define "insane amount". - What on earth does "forswear friends and allies" mean exactly .?. Stop talking in 3 dollar drama book lingo please. 
Alti (SkB) wrote:
Deranzin wrote:
Alti wrote:
Yes, we were intimidated by your allies, who had a leadership that then was not keeping some of its players in line, and so we prepared for the worst. |
I do not think that you read that part correctly ... it is actually quite the opposite, but anyway ... 
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Oh, really? Tell me, how do you know what passed between RHY and ourselves? I seem to recall being involved in about 1/4 of the negotiations and forwarded much of the rest. No doubt you had more privileged access. |
I was refering to my post which I think that you didn't read well. Other than that I do not know what you are refering at ...
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Loud Whispers
Wordsmith
Joined: 31 Jul 2012
Location: Saltmines
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Points: 196
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Posted: 07 Jan 2013 at 21:04 |
Deranzin wrote:
- How did Roads get such a different deal - and much better - than the one you are talking about? - How can you raze your own cities? - What does "all gold" mean? How much is that? - Define "insane amount." - What on earth does "forswear friends and allies" mean exactly? Stop talking in 3 dollar drama book lingo please. |
Instead of arguing semantics why not just ask for proof of these claims? It would be a great deal more productive. It would be refreshingly simple too, matching the reality to the conditions and seeing how much they differ or adhere.
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