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Points: 2396 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 20:36
Originally posted by Vanerin Vanerin wrote:

I am not sure why it is so terrible of a crime for a confed to assist their confed? I don't see why it is a problem for H? to help RHY and I don't see why it is an issue that Absa helped SkB.

Side note: TD as much as I respect you, it is kinda hard to take you seriously when you go on and on about accusations but don't care to actually show anything for it. If you are not willing to share your evidence, it is kinda pointless to talk about it.
Vane - it is a violation of ToS to share igms.   Send armies if it matters to you.
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Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

Originally posted by Vanerin Vanerin wrote:

I am not sure why it is so terrible of a crime for a confed to assist their confed? I don't see why it is a problem for H? to help RHY and I don't see why it is an issue that Absa helped SkB.

Side note: TD as much as I respect you, it is kinda hard to take you seriously when you go on and on about accusations but don't care to actually show anything for it. If you are not willing to share your evidence, it is kinda pointless to talk about it.
Vane - it is a violation of ToS to share igms.   Send armies if it matters to you.

Only public posting of igms is violation of ToS. You could forward your 'evidence' to Vanerin as an IGM.







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Originally posted by Vanerin Vanerin wrote:

I am not sure why it is so terrible of a crime for a confed to assist their confed? I don't see why it is a problem for H? to help RHY and I don't see why it is an issue that Absa helped SkB.


Me neither :)

I am just trying to understand why the same people that offered their help to their allies (a perfectly reasonable thing to do) now claim that somehow other people are to blame for their actions and that there was some huuuuuge mindbending machine altering their wills to fall in an imaginary trap when it is their own actions that didn't really make much sense (asking from someone for diplomatic help and them sending troops without your knowledge for example ! LOL) and led the situation to this war. 

Even if someone accepts THEIR arguments as totally correct, wouldn't you say that then it is like they are calling themselves gullible and utterly unreasonable at the same time .?. 

Is it just me or the whole thing is totally hilarious .?. LOL
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Points: 729 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 2013 at 22:10
" Deranzin...."

You are not so shortsighted as you pretend to be, even in H? you must have heard some rumors before war started.  There are few holes in thread I started, it was useless anyway: http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/phew_topic4331.html

One brave sent army before it was all agreed on counsil and with SkB, but it was far from aggressive act. Deimos had five days to remove his troops as agreed, he refused to do so. I have reasons to believe that your alliance exploited absence of RHY leader, using Deimos and few other hawks to discredit or destroy Consone. None of them stayed in Rhyagelle...

No doubt, after few weeks you will ask again these same questions, and I will try to answer like some fool.
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Originally posted by Ander Ander wrote:

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Only public posting of igms is violation of ToS. You could forward your 'evidence' to Vanerin as an IGM.


On reviewing the ToS, you appear to be correct.

Vane - What is in it for me to spend the time going through my mailbox for you?  Will you join my fight?
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I went through my mailbox just in case, didn't find it. The Dude is probably referring to this short convo: http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/so-whos-winning-and-is-it-really-illy-armageddon_topic4472_page15.html
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No Grego. I am not referring to any forum convo.

It doesn't matter now.
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Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

 

Vane - What is in it for me to spend the time going through my mailbox for you?  Will you join my fight?


Nothing at all. I do not matter except that I try to bring clarification to that around me. I am just offering you a suggestion if you want people to take you seriously, you should be willing to back up what you say. It is only a suggestion and you are free to ignore it.

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Vane  - I only state my reasons for my acts.  

If you disapprove join Consone and stop me.


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Originally posted by Vanerin Vanerin wrote:

Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

 

Vane - What is in it for me to spend the time going through my mailbox for you?  Will you join my fight?


Nothing at all. I do not matter except that I try to bring clarification to that around me. I am just offering you a suggestion if you want people to take you seriously, you should be willing to back up what you say. It is only a suggestion and you are free to ignore it.

~Vanerin


Van-- For what it's worth (and I know detractors will point out that TD and I are on a similar tact in this war), I have always known The Dude to be truthful. He might dramatize it a bit (he is an attorney, after all! ;) ), but it is always the truth.

And I can say this as someone who fought him before. We were on opposite sides of a war, and therefore not always in agreement. Far from it. We have had numerous arguments... And, yet, I still have a lot of respect for the guy. He pursues what he perceives to be the honorable path for him and his alliance in all things.

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