Peace Offer Rejected

there's a strategical reason why most alliance prefer to lose cities outside the fortress/region rather than helping those player out. Not unless you have millions of troops to send abroad and fight.

The best way a player can do is - exo his cities inside the fortress and rebuild.

Thoughts from the sidelines. :|

Exactly what is the point of this thread? I have been reading though it and this is about all the insight I have gained;

For some reason someone felt the need to clarify that H had been offered peace but rejected it. (I expect H were on GC making out they had not been given any path out of the war or something maybe? just hazarding a guess)

With that clarified and agreed to by H, H then continue to make out their opponents are 'evil'.  Really? for what? fighting a war? torturing chip-monks? slandering penguins?  I don't get it.

All I can gather from this is that H feel nobody has a right to fight against them, when previously they have practiced their right to fight against anyone they wish, no matter how big, how small, or how outnumbered.

Aside from this Kumo then claims this evil is manifest in certain players on his side in certain areas loosing cities to sieges, but then states how it is the choice of those player's alliances to allow those cities to be lost???

So basically H's opponents are evil due to the fact they are doing exactly what Kumo and his ilk choose for them to do?

Hypocritical?   or just confusing?

Lets just get on with fighting the H war shall we and stop debating with someone so nonsensical.

KillerPoodle wrote: The Duke wrote: AS per the usual H? makes a spin on the events to suit whatever puts them in a better light. Freemorn PLayers havent been the target of any Shade sieges in the last week. Our convo was 11 days ago and several sieges happened after it.  Also Torden is currently under siege which started yesterday - now who's spinning?. From the siege page: Tordenkaffen [H?] Marienborg [-980|492] in Fremorn Mishra [Shade] Fri 03 Jan 03:29 On another note- I still havent seen your examples of things backfiring that your so proud of. Your lies and misinformation catch up to you? Why on earth would I give away intel?  Especially seeing how you've used the info I've given you in the past.

The siege on torden was the last seige sent and was sent before our counsil decided how we were gonna proceed since you had refused to help them. As for providing intel- im just asking you to verify a false claim in which i know you cant do

Brandmeister wrote: Epidemic wrote: I don't understand how you can claim its just a game, get over it and have fun, and then claim spying is a bad thing. I can answer that from my own perspective. I view Illyriad as a beer and peanuts soccer league. A little trash talking between teams is natural. You will have some huggy-huggy players, a few people who are a little over competitive for a casual league, and a majority of people who just enjoy socializing with their team and staying in shape. It would be very strange in such a context to convince one of your friends to join another team in your league for the sole purpose of gathering intelligence on them. That would just be weird. You're going to practice with them, play with them, socialize with them for weeks or months, for the rather perverse purpose of sabotaging their soccer team? It would be distasteful in a professional context, but for a beer and peanuts league? You would require some serious personal issues to do that. Alliance and global chat are the socializing part of the experience. Yes, they happen in the context of a game, but the interactions you have there are between real people, not through the proxy of digital bits. It's easy to de-humanize people through the Internet, but that doesn't make it acceptable. Lying can provide an advantage in many real life games, even when the lying happens around the game. That doesn't make lying and misrepresentation "part of the game", it just means that people are willing to engage in unsportsmanlike conduct to gain an advantage in a game, which itself is a rather sad commentary on the importance placed in winning over people.

All I have to say: nobody really understand H?