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That is what I would think, but I have heard rumour of an alliance telling its members if they leave they must exo all cites out of the alliance territory, or face retribution.

However, this is little more than a rumour as I have said.  I have not seen the alliance put such a threat into action.
<Deranzin> I'd agree with darkone on that

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rill Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Jan 2014 at 19:23
I note that the post that raised the point about leaders "killing" people who chose to leave comes from a neutral party, perhaps speculating based on his experience in past games rather than anything that has actually occurred in this war.

It seems unlikely that alliances on either side of the war are threatening their members who wish to leave.  Not only would protection be offered by the other side, it would constitute a propaganda coup for their enemies.  Not to mention that it usually turns out to be really ineffective -- possibly leading to even more people leaving when they realize that their "leadership" have turned into dictators.

Illyrians have traditionally stood against both "join or die" and "leave and die" as alliance philosophies.  I doubt that either side would long tolerate an alliance that espoused either of these principles in their ranks.
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Originally posted by jcx jcx wrote:

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Then the alliance should encourage the player to exodus to their region or drop out of the war if he or she doesn't want to get caught in the outer fringes.


Its optional since exoing with lots of troops inside will cost you a lot. Dropping out from the war is optional too - but if you do - prolly your leaders will kill if you. :D


Not if you are on our side.

All players should be free to surrender from the war if that is what they wish, I have heard some rumor of a certain alliance threatening its members to not surrender, however if someone is under such itinerant threats from some insane leader they should let the other side know, so as protection can be offered as part of the surrender terms.
<Deranzin> I'd agree with darkone on that

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Then the alliance should encourage the player to exodus to their region or drop out of the war if he or she doesn't want to get caught in the outer fringes.


Its optional since exoing with lots of troops inside will cost you a lot. Dropping out from the war is optional too - but if you do - prolly your leaders will kill if you. :D
Disclaimer: The above is jcx|orcboy's personal opinion and is not the opinion or policy of Harmless? [H?] or of the little green men that have been following him all day.

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All I have to say: nobody really understand H?

I think no one really understands any alliance. Or any player for that matter. It is kinda silly to claim that only one side is misunderstood.

That being said, how do you feel that your side is misunderstood? How could I understand you better? (This could be answered by anyone and should perhaps belong in its own thread.)

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Originally posted by jcx jcx wrote:

there's a strategical reason why most alliance prefer to lose cities outside the fortress/region rather than helping those player out. Not unless you have millions of troops to send abroad and fight.

The best way a player can do is - exo his cities inside the fortress and rebuild.

Thoughts from the sidelines. :|

Then the alliance should encourage the player to exodus to their region or drop out of the war if he or she doesn't want to get caught in the outer fringes.
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Originally posted by Brandmeister Brandmeister wrote:

Guys, can we maybe tone down the abuse of bold, italics, caps, underline, and large text? Also please use the quote tags properly, and preview your posts. Despite various Internet fables, making your

text REALLY BiG

does not actually make it more persuasive. I know the forums aren't exactly the Fortress of Grammer* (TM), but we are nearing the precipice of multicolored flashing text. Let's all just back away slowly and resume slinging mud in the usual neutral toned standard fonts.

* Irony intended by egregiously misspelling grammar.

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Guys, can we maybe tone down the abuse of bold, italics, caps, underline, and large text? Also please use the quote tags properly, and preview your posts. Despite various Internet fables, making your

text REALLY BiG

does not actually make it more persuasive. I know the forums aren't exactly the Fortress of Grammer* (TM), but we are nearing the precipice of multicolored flashing text. Let's all just back away slowly and resume slinging mud in the usual neutral toned standard fonts.

* Irony intended by egregiously misspelling grammar.
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Originally posted by Epidemic Epidemic wrote:

 Since this is a unique game that style of gameplay would ruin the player base and slowly, but surely, end the game. It takes a long time for slow games to die a slow death. 

Sir, I respectfully disagree with your statement about a slow death in Illy.

Let me quote if you don't mind a famous Roman stoïc philosopher, Seneca the Younger:

Urbes constituit aetas, hora dissolvit 
Lifetime builds up cities, a single hour ruins them.

The reason I am bringing this up is that I maintain there will be a pain threshold (like in any other war, whether fantasy or real) beyond which - and provided hopefully that players get some wise guidance from their leadership -  it will no longer make any sense for the losers (as a community of players) to keep on fighting.

This statement obviously takes nothing away from the hardcore few that still prefer to loose all what they built over the years in the very best "Alamo" style.

Let me end with another quote that means a lot to me personally and to our alliance Invictus:

"Salus populi suprema lex esto."
Let the welfare of the people be the supreme law.

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Edited by Tatharion - 05 Jan 2014 at 18:43
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Darkwords Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 2014 at 16:34
Just thought I would put this back here after derenzin burying it.

Originally posted by Darkwords Darkwords wrote:

Yeah the hatred is pretty bad, what with those posts eluding to a certain group of players being Nazis. 

Not to mention the BS claims of us 'exterminating accounts'.

edit:  I just wish a certain player had the common decency to respond when his claims were brought into question, rather than having his alliance friends post on the forum in an attempt to bury those questions.
<Deranzin> I'd agree with darkone on that

[21:59]<ropadope> you know I am perverted

<Bartleby> dark is upsetting some peeps
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