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Createure 
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Joined: 07 Apr 2010
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 Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 13:05 |
 Erik Dirk wrote:
Boromir Never say's anything in global, is not in the higher council of VALAR and i can't recall him every saying anything bad about H? His greatest crime was being No.1 in the tournament.
He also joined valar for the turnament. |
Sure Boromir holds a position of great respect in the minds of people across Illy for his stoic approach and for winning the second tournament for VALAR. But it is his decision to remain in VALAR after the tournament - and his decision to fight alongside Azreil in this war - if he did not want to be involved he need only have say. It is not for other people to decide what is wrong or right for Boromir himself.
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nightfury
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 13:04 |
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removed response since I got no business putting my opinions here ;)
Edited by nightfury - 27 Sep 2011 at 13:17
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karpintero
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 13:04 |
People, Champs and PA declared war on Valar! If H? jumped to their defense after Valar declares war, then that would have been completely understandable.
But no. Champs and PA declared war on Valar, then H? and the rest of the gang come to their rescue. All with grudges and such. And even those with no clear reason except for confed, such as Dlords. If I were the leaders of a big alliance, I would think twice about helping two small alliances who deliberately declared war on an alliance several times their size. IMO, it all seems very suspicious.
Edited by karpintero - 27 Sep 2011 at 13:06
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Leungarific
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 12:54 |
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Nice post.
Now, work that brain and try to figure out a reason this could be happening to Valar.
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demdigs
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 12:52 |
| 1 | Harmless? [H?] | 1 % | 88 | 5,912,519 | 964.88 | Yes
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| 3 | Curse of the Wolves [Curse]
| 0 % | 87 | 4,038,984 | 1,180.32 | No
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| 13 | Eternal Champions [Champ] | 0 % | 22 | 928,199 | 358.90 | No |
| 22 | Persona Armoniosa [{P A}] | 0 % | 80 | 484,697 | 672.54 | Yes |
| 7 | Dwarven Lords [Dlord] | 2 % | 94 | 2,219,387 | 891.60 | Yes |
total players - 371 total population- 13,583,786 vs valar of 100 people and 4,526,620; thats a 3-1 advantage. I would really not have a problem with this war if it was H? and champ and PA vs valar or even valar vs H? but when it is 5 top 25 alliances vs 1 that's where i think it is unfair.
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demdigs
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 12:28 |
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sorry about the delay i could not figure this out, in reply to creature, when PA and champ declared on Valar they knew the size difference and accepted it as a reality. then they went and got H? to declare on valar as well, then to top it off; when they where already had the top alliance in the game and out numbered valar 2-1 they got dlords and curse involved in the fight which makes it completely one sided and seems like an excessive amount of people for a war for one alliance to possibly with stand, I am for a fair fight in a game and i think when it was h? PA and champ vs valar it was as fair and you reasonably could get, but then you added 2 other alliances and in my opinion that's a mob mentality and wrong.
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karpintero
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 12:23 |
I do wonder how PA and Champs had the balls to declare war on an alliance that is several times their size, that could wipe out their leadership in a short time, without having the backing of a bigger alliance.
Let's consider that only PA and Champ against Valar were the only participants. The leadership of PA and Champs both know that they could not win against that. AND THEY DECLARED WAR on Valar, not the other way around. I reckon AA and Lorre are not as stupid as to fight a losing war that could raze their cities off the map. Hmm, something smells fishy here.
And there was the leaked report from DLords, where the leadership ordered the members to prepare for war with a secret target, which turned out to be Valar.
I'm not screaming conspiracy, but these are the facts. Even though there is no clear evidence to back up Azreil's claim that the war is somehow premeditated, something is definitely going on in the Anti-Valar war room.
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Erik Dirk
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 12:21 |
Boromir Never say's anything in global, is not in the higher council of VALAR and i can't recall him every saying anything bad about H? His greatest crime was being No.1 in the tournament.
He also joined valar for the turnament.
Edited by Erik Dirk - 27 Sep 2011 at 12:22
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Erik Dirk
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 12:19 |
Hey, just thought I'd point this out. H? are now the bad Guys
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Brids17
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 12:17 |
karpintero wrote:
opic: PA and Champ declare war against Valar
Posted: Today at 07:13 By Rill
To fight for a minority opinion is not in itself wrong. It might not be a successful fight, but you might choose to go down in a blaze of glory, having decided that it doesn't matter if MOST people don't agree with you, what you are standing for is right. If you do so, you have my respect for choosing to stand for an idea, even for an idea that I think is wrong.
I'm just asking you to take a look at yourselves and acknowledge that you may be nearly alone in this fight for a reason -- and that reason is that people don't agree with you.
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Has it ever occurred to you that just because people don't agree with them does not mean that they are in the wrong? Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but your post implies that Valar should reexamine themselves, reflect on their "mistakes." Which to me, is imposing your principles on them.
I think that some people are right (I forgot who lol) who have said in the forums that these opinions are of people that are active in GC. And not everyone is active in GC, more so share the belief of the people their. Yes, Valar may be the minority in the way that they play the game. They may not be as sociable as the others in terms of bonding with people in GC. And they may have made mistakes in handling some of their members. But that does not entitle them to be wrong. You may be a respected and beloved player on GC, but you are not the one who sets definitions on what is right and wrong in this game.
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Brilliant post. =)
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