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Mayflower
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Joined: 29 Nov 2012 Location: Lan Larosh Status: Offline Points: 124 |
Topic: Opinionated and UninformedPosted: 20 Feb 2013 at 13:38 |
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Making a million from scratch at 450 pop in one week? Can you teach me how to make a trillion then? :P |
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Granlik
Forum Warrior
Joined: 12 Apr 2012 Location: London UK Status: Offline Points: 280 |
Posted: 19 Feb 2013 at 20:34 |
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Aggggh!
Luna, please help us.......... |
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WeeAshley
Wordsmith
Joined: 06 Feb 2013 Status: Offline Points: 173 |
Posted: 19 Feb 2013 at 18:13 |
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End game for me right now is a nebulous cloudy area where I am less of a newb and contribute more to the overall world. I would imagine that it could be any number of things: 1) Having a military strength that makes you a valuable asset in your alliance. 2) Having the markets cornered and buying from you just how you want to. Making gobs of gold. 3) Being one of the go-to guys when someone in the alliance needs any of x y or z. 4) ... and so on really... Like any sandbox game my guess is that the end game here is community created.
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KillerPoodle
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Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Status: Offline Points: 1853 |
Posted: 19 Feb 2013 at 17:06 |
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What is your definition of "end-game content"? |
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Sliveen
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Joined: 07 Dec 2012 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 40 |
Posted: 19 Feb 2013 at 04:57 |
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Wouldn't really work in gc. We already have Nekkid Thursday
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WeeAshley
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Joined: 06 Feb 2013 Status: Offline Points: 173 |
Posted: 18 Feb 2013 at 21:50 |
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Which part is rubbish? I'm not arrogant enought to need to learn by experiencing it; I can take the consensus of those who are more experienced then me :) Simply because I say something doesn't mean I won't change my mind completely based solely on testimony of people like those in this thread.... So... Are you saying that a newb can keep completely to himself, join no guild, get no resources from GC or anywhere else, read nothing about the games on the forum, and still progress as quickly as those that take advantage of these things? Because that's what I said, and you called it rubbish? Or am I misunderstanding?
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Brandmeister
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Joined: 12 Oct 2012 Location: Laoshin Status: Offline Points: 2396 |
Posted: 18 Feb 2013 at 20:10 |
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Rubbish. Let's come back to this discussion in two months, and see if you're still willing to make any of these assertions with such confidence. My initial method was to produce, gather, and hunt. I sold the items and used the gold to purchase basic resources. It helps to have good caravan capacity to haul back the raw materials from trade hubs. You complained of boredom, and I offered this approach as more interactive and time-consuming. YMMV. |
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WeeAshley
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Joined: 06 Feb 2013 Status: Offline Points: 173 |
Posted: 18 Feb 2013 at 14:31 |
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Off the top of my head I would say, "progressing in the game towards the end-game content." Granted there is lots of different end game content in Illyriad, so progressing towards any of it. [Time it takes you to progress to end game]>[Fastest Time it takes to progress to end game];then x = inefficient; else x = efficient; Everyone can get there eventually. A lowly newb can decide that, for a challenge, he never wants to read an online guide, he doesn't want to join a guild, and he doesn't want any resources from begging or offers in GC. He will eventually progress to end game content, but it will take him a hell of a lot longer. So with this in mind... From what I have read most people say the most efficient way is to build tons of resources. You say an equally efficient way is to build an army. So tell me(us?) more about this build! I have been considering starting an alt account - so please post the details so I can try it out. C'mon, spill the beans already!
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Brandmeister
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Joined: 12 Oct 2012 Location: Laoshin Status: Offline Points: 2396 |
Posted: 18 Feb 2013 at 04:47 |
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Efficient at what, exactly? Population is almost completely irrelevant, except for the purpose of taxes (only for large armies in big cities) and for dispatching settlers. My build queue was never empty. Nor was I ever dependent on others for resource donations, past the first few newb care-a-vans. I built for gathering and trading, not raw resource production (although I certainly leveled my plots as well). Then I traded for gold, and loaded my caravans with resources purchased from trade hubs. Same result, different approach. If you want to go wild leveling your Common Ground, your population will grow faster than mine did, but I found breeding cows a lot less interesting than trading, hunting and exploring.
When people use terms like 'efficient', I'm curious to know the end goal. Mine was to enjoy trading and to become the biggest brewer in Illyria. Population... meh. A focus on population assumes you want to be a huge player fielding huge armies in tournaments and war. If that goal inspires new players, great, but I think Illy offers different flavors to different sorts of players. |
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WeeAshley
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Joined: 06 Feb 2013 Status: Offline Points: 173 |
Posted: 17 Feb 2013 at 20:57 |
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Usually the more interesting ways are a hell of a lot less efficent. If you've been succesful with a fun and interesting technique I would love to read your guide on it. "An Alternative way to start and have fun, by Brandmeister" ... If I do make an alt eventually I would definately try it out.
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