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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 15:25
the point of fair or unfair isn't the question. As long as everybody obeys the laws of the server it's fair. Ganging up 10 on 1 is fair, because it isn't forbidden. Maybe the 1 shouldn't have pissed off so many others. Then again, maybe those others shouldn't have pissed of H?. I don't understand why people think their constant complaining and whining on the forums helps their cause
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 15:20
You mean the ones where H?/Coalition has been outnumbered?  Consone outnumbered Coalition.  So if you were trying to brand H? has hypocrites then it still wouldn't work.  Plus H? didn't form for the purpose of not "being pushed around by large alliances"  






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 15:15
Are you talking about the valar war Binky, where 7 or 8 alliances piled upon Valar? Somewhere there must be an elegant explanation for that. Ying Yang

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 15:09
If we may only fight wars against alliances with even numbers in this game then how come H? was involved in so many? They're way ahead of everyone else in size, experience and strategic location. To me it seems the point you're trying to make all the time mostly counts against you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 15:08
this is so awesome, this is going to be a riot of fun, a barrel of monkeys...true cat in the hat stuff....thanks!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 14:52
If by beating on your sibling you mean your sibling and 5 buddies fight this one person.  Then sure your analogy holds.  I guess its ok for a group of larger alliances to push around an alliance.  

Oh wait thats what you guys formed to prevent.  So I guess the best way for you to prevent that now would be to disband.  The other option being just telling the truth on what you really stand for.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 14:50
Originally posted by Gaius Rufius Tullus Gaius Rufius Tullus wrote:


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@Torden - NAAM has prepared, I am not sure in our military capabilities but we have troops.. Does that count? Cool

No. It annoys me to no end that you market yourselves as "the non aligned (neutral)" confederation - strongly implying to your average recruit, that the driving motivation is pacifism, and then drag your members into this war. The fact that they have joined you strongly implies they have NO CLUE about warfare, yet you are placing them in situations far beyond your own control.

So no, it doesn't count that they have troops, because everyone else have more. And I find it remarkably indifferent and irresponsible simply to place all those small accounts between yourself and the siege engines.

This is bad leadership, plain and simple.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 14:29
Hey there,
Say you are in a family group, and someone is beating your little sibling. Granted, you may be bigger than the bully - but that should not stop you from helping your younger sibling and stopping the conflict.

I think you are under the impression that NAAM is out for an extermination campaign, I would deny this - but you seem to have made up your mind about this already so whatever I say would be wrong.

Instead I shall give you a picture of a fish through this link : http://www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk/custom/images/large/4bfaa319d6775.jpg
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 14:18
"We imagine a loose (and maybe sometimes closer) community of alliances with good intentions that aim to cooperate for the good of their alliances and all of Illyriad, without being pushed around by large alliances or annihilated for whatever reason."


So in your support of alliances not being pushed around by larger alliances.  You join together with a bunch of other large alliances to push around a smaller one?  Will you start targeting new players next?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Oct 2013 at 14:13
I have forgotten the password for my GNT forum account, so will blab on here with this account.

@Torden - NAAM has prepared, I am not sure in our military capabilities but we have troops.. Does that count? Cool

@Starry - NAAM made known that this would not stand, and after several failed agreements to halt this rather silly war (and other alliances declaring on NC and wanting to use NAAM as reserves) we decided to declare war to make sure the little ones would not be picked on anymore.

This is not hypocritical, because most large alliances have done this at some point in time - and much as I would love to declare NAAM to be unique etc, it really is no different.

I think I covered everything..

Happy to pass on evidence IG, send GNT or GRT a mail! Thumbs Up
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