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GM Luna
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Community Manager Joined: 22 Oct 2011 Location: Illyriad Status: Offline Points: 2042 |
Topic: Night Crusaders / STEEL conflictPosted: 11 Sep 2012 at 15:22 |
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Discussion finished. No more cursing and name calling. Thank you.
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GM Luna | Illyriad Community Manager | community@illyriad.co.uk
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G0DsDestroyer
Postmaster
Joined: 16 Sep 2010 Location: Ásgarð/Vanaheim Status: Offline Points: 975 |
Posted: 11 Sep 2012 at 15:18 |
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hmmmmm, there's a lot of
in all these pages, way to much for me to comment on all of it effectively. So I'll just ask one question and make a few comments. Where's TLR now? Since NC helped them, it's only fair that TLR helps NC out in their time of need. Oh and I suppose we could throw ~KV~ in there as well and BSH was also said to be against Aesir. So in my opinion all of those alliances should jump on the side of the fence NC is on. They believed NC did the right thing in the Aesir/TLR war, so they can't be wrong. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3VNBBUp2Cw |
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geofrey
Postmaster General
Joined: 31 May 2011 Status: Offline Points: 1013 |
Posted: 11 Sep 2012 at 14:50 |
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Kudos to NC for posting this, and for playing the game.
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Merpdarsh
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Joined: 17 Dec 2011 Status: Offline Points: 9 |
Posted: 11 Sep 2012 at 14:48 |
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Rill alluded to something along these lines, but there seems to be a sort of paradigm shift in your argument for these diplomatic attacks.
You lose me here. We went from Gim deserving it (and a long list of reasons why) to all of Steel deserving it and no readily apparent reasons.
Is this that reasoning? His players were "duped," so they deserve to be attacked? Interesting. Regarding:
If this is indeed the case, then these so called attacks that you heard through the grapevine that Steel was in cahoots to send wouldn't have been that big a deal for you, right? Obviously the next step is to attack the entire alliance preemptively because you have qualms with its leader(ship)? Why not just attack the leader(ship) and see who joined in? Also, is the irony lost on you that the reason that Aesir/TLR mess started was because one alliance had a problem with the leader of another? You opposed that decision then but then decide to make it here? I'm in Aesir, and candidly, I'm not privy to whatever conversations are being held to justify these decisions, but that seemed to be the overarching theme. Feel free to correct me if NC's motivations were different. In addition, the community generated massive backlash against Aesir's actions, yet it seems everyone's just whipped out the popcorn for this one. People (rightfully) ripped on Aesir for attacking small players in that conflict as well; none of that going on here. I could care less about how this turns out and take a very "Rill-ian" neutrality to it all, but this level of hypocrisy is beyond laughable. All those alliances claiming they stood up "tyranny" have gone awkwardly silent. If anything, you guys deserve an award for putting on that sheep's clothing and convincing everyone that this is a) somehow different and b) somehow justified. Bravo.
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invictusa
Forum Warrior
Joined: 16 Dec 2011 Status: Offline Points: 488 |
Posted: 11 Sep 2012 at 13:53 |
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Again, I do not speak on behalf of anyone but myself. I absolutely despise the sheep of GC that have their little cool points based on how often you log there and spout the mindless GC drivel amongst the fellow "Face of Illy" and the weight that bullsh*t carries across many of the alliances. Look at GC on any given day and you will be able to point out no more than one or two non-.... Furthermore, I feel the object of an alliance wishing to do harm to another for any reason is not the business of the "community" stated above if it does not directly interfere with their confederates. Yes NC was a bunch of dumbsh*ts for stating there actions and there aim. But I find it admirable as well. Cheers |
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twilights
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Joined: 21 May 2012 Status: Offline Points: 915 |
Posted: 11 Sep 2012 at 13:17 |
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people shouldnt attack special needs people, remember we all live in glass houses and remember for some people this game has taken has taken over their real life, just be thankful they not on your real neighborhood enforcement committees
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bansisdead
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Joined: 08 Jan 2012 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 609 |
Posted: 11 Sep 2012 at 13:09 |
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and I thought I was watching a rather long drawn out episode of Scooby do, everyone and their mother seem to be involved, which doesn't really help settle the dispute, and not for the first, second or third time, this year...
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Princess Xanax
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Joined: 26 Nov 2011 Status: Offline Points: 53 |
Posted: 11 Sep 2012 at 12:49 |
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Rill, we owe you no explanation. You seem too have a very large misplaced sense of entitlement. If you're going to call us liars, try being more succinct in your efforts. |
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Rasak
Wordsmith
Joined: 26 Nov 2011 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 140 |
Posted: 11 Sep 2012 at 04:19 |
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I agree with this. :D They didn't say that noone other than Steel should attack them as I recall, they only said that anyone else attacking them would appear to be an insult to Steel. Not sure I agree with this but they are allowed to look at it from that angle. :D
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Salararius
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Joined: 26 Sep 2011 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 519 |
Posted: 11 Sep 2012 at 04:02 |
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The last NC post made this post moot but I'll respond anyway. I don't care if two players want to play a war game within Illy. But Illy is a game with war...and politics...and trading...and crafting...etc..., not simply a war game. If someone is trying to reduce Illy to a war game (what I read described in the initial post) then I care about that. If they do so by attacking people they "don't like" (which is pretty random to me) then I really care about that. I care even more when it seems that the fights selected are not even (war games are by and large even contests). Sorry I wasn't more clear the first time. As NC has clearly stated. It is not their intent to simply randomly attack people. With their latest post, they've gone ahead and played Illy with all the elements (politics, strategy, long term planning, organization and war) that make Illy so much more interesting than just a war game. Edited by Salararius - 11 Sep 2012 at 04:04 |
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