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Thanks for the update, GM C,

good to see you (and the devs) adjusting the next developments!

I'd  be interested  to know how Count Rupert can be credited with an average of more than 500 Hearts of Darkness gathered per city on his account (or is he draining all the x-Crows allies?), since the beginning of the event, when in my neighborhood, I can't see Underworld troops in more than gatherings, yielding less than a score of parts whenever we can hit them!
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Hey folks,

Just wanted to make some clarifications.  First off, this isn't a tournament, this is a running event that will have a conclusion.  After the event is over, the Kerberos units will be sticking around as the link forged between the underworld and Elgea & Broken Lands by the Tower is permanent(?).  

The Underworld Unleashed event is something new and will continue to evolve and impact Illyriad with things yet to come.

I should have been explicit in the post, I just thought that saying it's a "New Event" and not a New Tournament would be sufficient.

We have adjusted spawn rates for Broken Lands and will continue to monitor the event as it progresses.

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Prestige eater,  like every tournament organized by developers.

Money is god of Illyriad,  unfortunately.

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This is a bad event Ouch because:

1) Location. It plays too large a role, due to spawn rate, spawn density and despawn rate.  Anyone who has cities within 3 hours of the spawn locations have such a huge advantage since the spawns move so quickly.  If you have a cluster of cities within 3 hours, you have won the jackpot.

2) Cavalry is the best attack units because of #1.  
    -->If you have mostly cavalry and a good location your advantage over all other players is laughably huge.

3) Prestige speeding harvesters for the win. 

Good Idea, bad execution. 

A better event:
1) spawns much more random (not clustered)
2) spawns don't despawn until killed or event ends 
    -->(more in theme with a wave of them coming to overtake the land)
3) the longer a spawn is around the more it grows: every 8 hours double unit amount.
4) some spawns seriously punish different types of units.  i.e, if you want this spawn camp you better send swords or archers, if you send even a 100,000 cavalry they will all die.  ... force people to scout the squares.  Like literally units with stats like:  
Spawn Example Defense: 15/5/15/100000 
Spawn Example Defense: 25/1511111/25/10 
Spawn Example Defense: 15111111/275/115/10111111
etc (just never one that has all crazy defense)
or the idea of instant death for some units vs defense:  DEATH / 123/ 122 / DEATH
if you send the death types they die. 


This would make scouting a requirement.  Currently there is no requirement, calvary is just 1000% better due to speed and lack of any kind of real punishment (for large players).




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Kimmyeo:
Try and scout the squares you have killed Underworld Armies at. Maybe you will discover something is dropped on the square. 

It is correct you get gold on the actual report but you don't see the HoD drops in the report.

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Another thing:
How long is this tournament running for? I cannot find any dates anywhere.

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I have killed over 10 packs of these NPC's without receiving a single HoD or Exp for my commanders. At most, I get 1000 gold...I also haven't seen anything larger that a pack where they are popping up near my cities. You cannot hunt very far out, since they move pretty fast. I've missed more than I have killed. This is my first tournament since I have started  playing, and I must say, I am disappointed. There is no way I can get to the upper levels of the medals, in fact, I gave many away so everyone I knew had a chance of getting a medal. I don't like to complain, but it would have been okay, if I at least could get commander Exp for hunting them, but I guess the groups are so small it doesn't even register. It seems very unfairly distributed across the map, and the groups sizes are inconsistent as well, across the map. I also should point out that the hearts I did get were from the very beginning when I went out and cleared all the paws I could find that weren't being collected because no one realized yet they started dropping parts. 
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I think Ten Kulch pretty much nailed it. As he points out - they can send armies anywhere from any Hellmouth and - certainly at present, the important thing seems to be the gathering of the HoDs. Whether that will change at some point in the future who knows - all we can do is go with what we know at present.

Having said that, after an initial sighting of two armies near me (which I killed) I've seen no more despite constant checking. I've no idea if the spawns have dropped of in Elgea as well or if it's just a case of they don't feel like coming near me. To be honest, I don't really care anymore.
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Just because some regions have more Hellmouths, does not necessarily require that they spawn more Kerberos armies. The spawn speed could be different. Each point could also send armies into nearby regions.

Also, just because some regions have more Kerberos armies, does not necessarily mean that they are of identical size. People have reported Gathering size up to Myriad size. That's a lot of variation.

If the number of hearts dropped in each region varies wildly, then that specifically indicates an imbalance. The other factors are just visual. Drop rate corresponds directly to medal advancement, as I understand this particular tournament.
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I am very grateful for the tourney. 
It just seems very strange to me that entire regions could have unr 5 hell mouths when others have 50.  I am just trying to understand if this is some part of a grand plan that will balance out later in the tourney, a random occurence that is part of the programming, or a glitch that the devs intend to fix.
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Original table got completely screwed up when I updated it. Here i the new one...




#

# Suitable

% Suitable

% of Total

% of Total

Continent

Id

Name

# Tiles

Hellmouths

Tiles

Tiles

Land

Hellmouths

Neither

0

Unknown

0

0

0

0.00%

0.00%

0.00%

Elgea

1

The Wastes

1196011

3

3656

0.31%

8.65%

0.48%

Elgea

2

Kal Tirikan

1136437

20

3139

0.28%

8.21%

3.18%

Elgea

3

Wolgast

2470689

17

1520

0.06%

17.86%

2.71%

Elgea

4

Ursor

797602

7

14875

1.86%

5.77%

1.11%

Elgea

5

Qarosslan

875482

8

50336

5.75%

6.33%

1.27%

Elgea

6

Windlost

789272

12

10513

1.33%

5.71%

1.91%

Elgea

7

Tamarin

934224

9

10377

1.11%

6.75%

1.43%

Elgea

8

Fremorn

206124

22

559

0.27%

1.49%

3.50%

Elgea

9

Norweld

200460

23

696

0.35%

1.45%

3.66%

Elgea

10

Laoshin

83766

3

241

0.29%

0.61%

0.48%

Elgea

11

Ragalon

82563

8

251

0.30%

0.60%

1.27%

Elgea

12

Taomist

70006

10

287

0.41%

0.51%

1.59%

Elgea

13

Meilla

155905

18

427

0.27%

1.13%

2.87%

Elgea

14

Lucerna

73321

11

265

0.36%

0.53%

1.75%

Elgea

15

Middle Kingdom

128973

16

411

0.32%

0.93%

2.55%

Elgea

16

Mal Motsha

107225

12

312

0.29%

0.78%

1.91%

Elgea

17

Keppen

92799

15

351

0.38%

0.67%

2.39%

Elgea

18

Tor Carrock

152835

12

365

0.24%

1.10%

1.91%

Elgea

19

The Western Realms

102392

12

395

0.39%

0.74%

1.91%

Elgea

20

Keshalia

112579

7

284

0.25%

0.81%

1.11%

Elgea

21

Perrigor

75747

19

302

0.40%

0.55%

3.03%

Elgea

22

Kul Tar

33050

3

62

0.19%

0.24%

0.48%

Elgea

23

Kumala

104822

5

258

0.25%

0.76%

0.80%

Elgea

24

Lan Larosh

153724

25

541

0.35%

1.11%

3.98%

Elgea

25

Arran

118387

9

261

0.22%

0.86%

1.43%

Elgea

26

Turalia

68179

8

197

0.29%

0.49%

1.27%

Elgea

27

Zanpur

80038

9

238

0.30%

0.58%

1.43%

Elgea

28

Elijal

33431

0

28

0.08%

0.24%

0.00%

Elgea

29

Azura

105555

6

291

0.28%

0.76%

0.96%

Elgea

30

Djebeli

54369

1

131

0.24%

0.39%

0.16%

OCEAN

31

OCEAN

2000384

0

0

0.00%

14.46%

0.00%

Elgea

32

Tallimar

137587

23

459

0.33%

0.99%

3.66%

Elgea

33

Larn

69366

6

250

0.36%

0.50%

0.96%

Elgea

34

Kem

1988

0

9

0.45%

0.01%

0.00%

Elgea

35

Farra Isle

6478

0

7

0.11%

0.05%

0.00%

Elgea

36

Trome

1141

0

2

0.18%

0.01%

0.00%

Elgea

37

Rill Archipelago

2969

1

28

0.94%

0.02%

0.16%

Elgea

38

Stormstone Island

618

0

5

0.81%

0.00%

0.00%

Neither

39

Unknown

1801

0

0

0.00%

0.01%

0.00%

Broken Lands

40

Calumnex

51918

4

808

1.56%

0.38%

0.64%

Broken Lands

41

Puchuallpa

174339

2

520

0.30%

1.26%

0.32%

Neither

42

Unknown

3

0

0

0.00%

0.00%

0.00%

Broken Lands

43

Pamanyallpa

100593

1

950

0.94%

0.73%

0.16%

Broken Lands

44

Huronire

86917

2

259

0.30%

0.63%

0.32%

Broken Lands

45

Clarien

79388

25

10165

12.80%

0.57%

3.98%

Broken Lands

46

Pawanallpa

139451

5

1090

0.78%

1.01%

0.80%

Neither

47

Unknown

459

0

0

0.00%

0.00%

0.00%

Broken Lands

48

The Poisoned Isle

7645

0

21

0.27%

0.06%

0.00%

Broken Lands

49

Glanhad

58220

8

851

1.46%

0.42%

1.27%

Broken Lands

50

Northmarch

61017

2

399

0.65%

0.44%

0.32%

Broken Lands

51

High Hills

158812

91

29470

18.56%

1.15%

14.49%

Broken Lands

52

Westmarch

68861

2

274

0.40%

0.50%

0.32%

Neither

53

Unknown

1

0

0

0.00%

0.00%

0.00%

Broken Lands

54

Oarnamly

99569

3

953

0.96%

0.72%

0.48%

Neither

55

Unknown

11

0

0

0.00%

0.00%

0.00%

Broken Lands

56

Gremont

51049

11

4714

9.23%

0.37%

1.75%

Broken Lands

57

Coanhara

161669

9

4023

2.49%

1.17%

1.43%

Broken Lands

58

Lapo'a Lua

17625

1

53

0.30%

0.13%

0.16%

Broken Lands

59

Newlands

109332

35

10171

9.30%

0.79%

5.57%

Neither

60

Unknown

14

0

0

0.00%

0.00%

0.00%

Broken Lands

61

Aindara

109154

6

992

0.91%

0.79%

0.96%

Broken Lands

62

The Pirate Isles

39811

4

993

2.49%

0.29%

0.64%

Broken Lands

63

Silbeaur

65388

1

449

0.69%

0.47%

0.16%

Broken Lands

64

Fellandire

140886

5

2151

1.53%

1.02%

0.80%

Neither

65

Unknown

1

0

0

0.00%

0.00%

0.00%

Broken Lands

66

Vindorel

92122

2

1510

1.64%

0.67%

0.32%

Broken Lands

67

Almenly

106221

3

724

0.68%

0.77%

0.48%

Broken Lands

68

Kormandly

96421

8

2322

2.41%

0.70%

1.27%

Broken Lands

69

The Orken Coast

70802

2

1155

1.63%

0.51%

0.32%

Broken Lands

70

Kingslands

78418

2

497

0.63%

0.57%

0.32%

Broken Lands

71

Farshards

131885

5

1809

1.37%

0.95%

0.80%

Broken Lands

72

Shardlands

109527

8

1604

1.46%

0.79%

1.27%

Broken Lands

73

Strendur

179851

11

3804

2.12%

1.30%

1.75%

Broken Lands

74

Chulbran

74896

1

267

0.36%

0.54%

0.16%

Broken Lands

75

Jurgor

164380

7

1769

1.08%

1.19%

1.11%

Broken Lands

76

The Long White

130058

2

358

0.28%

0.94%

0.32%
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