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Originally posted by Count Rupert Count Rupert wrote:

Okay, I tested this using human knights and using gear with the worst possible speed modifications (Extra Heavy Chain, Battle Mules, War Spears).  Commander has forced march level 10.  A standard division speed was reduced from 18 to 10.8 wearing the gear.  As an elite division however the speed was reduced from 18 to -5.4.  

If you attempt to move the army, you get an Unable to Complete Request box with the following:

This army cannot move as it has a negative move speed, you cannot attack with it, but can defend with it.

So the way the formula is applied is a little wonked where elite divisions are concerned.  The whole point of using percentages is to avoid this sort of problem. 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Count Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 2018 at 16:31
Okay, I tested this using human knights and using gear with the worst possible speed modifications (Extra Heavy Chain, Battle Mules, War Spears).  Commander has forced march level 10.  A standard division speed was reduced from 18 to 10.8 wearing the gear.  As an elite division however the speed was reduced from 18 to -5.4.  

If you attempt to move the army, you get an Unable to Complete Request box with the following:

This army cannot move as it has a negative move speed, you cannot attack with it, but can defend with it.

So the way the formula is applied is a little wonked where elite divisions are concerned.  The whole point of using percentages is to avoid this sort of problem.  


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War spear. extra heavy leather, elite division.
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Elites would make it work.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Count Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 2018 at 15:05
Originally posted by eowan the short eowan the short wrote:

Extra Heavy Armour is likely to have something to do with it (-40%)

Okay, I forgot to make the adjustment using the PuzzleLogic site.  Even at 40% the numbers don't appear to be there.  
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Extra Heavy Armour is likely to have something to do with it (-40%)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Count Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Feb 2018 at 10:23
Originally posted by Almost Balanced Almost Balanced wrote:

You can always use prestige, and speed up all your units.

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No you can't.  Prestige can only be used to speed up trade units not military units.  

I'd be interested what gear was used given that all movement penalties are percentages and there only three classes of gear (mounts, weapons, armor) that can be worn it doesn't seem possible.  The worst armors available are -20%.  The only mounts with negatives are at -10% and -5%.  The worst weapons are -15% and those aren't defensive in nature.
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You can always use prestige, and speed up all your units.

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Yup, still -1
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Try removing the equipment and adding it back see if you still get -1. 
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