Need help!

Eoga, I'd have to say this: You bit more than you could chew. Regardless of your intention to 'protect the resource cache you're harvesting with your caravans', stationing an army on a tile is a military action, which is further made clear by the resulting losses of incoming caravans.

This is the general consensus among players, not because it is forcefully established by big alliances, but because it does make sense. To me this is nearly similar to unlimited submarine operation conducted by Kriegsmarine in WW2, resulting in the sinking of American merchant ships. I'm sure you remember how the U.S. responded.

Now, feel free to stand on your own opinions, but be ready for the consequences when you breach the norms. No one would offer military protection to you. What would they gain from it? Gold? Only other big alliances would be able to help you and they've hoarded more gold coins than you could imagine.

Peaceful resolution is the only way out. And that starts when you start realising it's you who started all these.

Good luck.

I was looking for help to protect not to resolve this conflict. However if that is the only help I can get, let me explain my reasons for doing what i did.

I hate it when I send my caravans out to gather resources that they get bumped 5 minutes later, So i send a a few soldiers after them to avoid it from happening. I am sorry for those who came from far and therefor had no time to react on my soldiers, however most of the people came from nearby and just should have payed more attention. aside form the once or twice that my caravans got bumped so fast that even my soldiers had not arrived yet, I never destroyed a caravan my own caravan present at the gathering place.

so yes, I called it a hazard zone. not because I wanted to claim them for myself, but simply for the fact that if you come from far, I might get their first with soldiers present, and I can't be held  responsible for what happens after that.


I tried to surrender to them once, but that did not turn out as I hoped. Since GOON avoided posting that message I will do it instead.

my message of surrender to them:
> Sent By: Eoga
> Received By: LordSabian
> Sent: 14JUN10 15:15
> Subject: to GOON
> Message: LordSabian,

Please give the following message to your alliance members:

Members and allies of GOON,

May I ask why you are doing this to me? I have been keeping myself quiet lately to avoid the same thing you guy did to me the last time I pissed you off. The only thing I have done to you people lately is defend against your thieves and spies. (yes, I know where they came from.)

or are you people still hung up on the fact I attacked you once? if so, you people don't quickly forget anything do you? Like I said back then, I just did it to make a statement, if you attack me, I attack back. But since that time I haven't done anything to you, even though you came at me time and time again.

I am not sure if you realized this already, but my small attack that rewarded me with almost 1000 stone has already been payed back over a 100 times.

I have already offered you people my surrender once, even though you where unable to break trough my defenses, but you people never seemed to want to reply. So here I am offering it you once more.

I surrender, state your demands and lets end this so we can both move on.
- Eoga
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the reponds I got:
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> Sent By: LordSabian
> Received By: Eoga
> Sent: 14JUN10 23:31
> Subject: Re: to GOON
> Message: I have delivered the message on to the alliance.

And I believe this lot of attacks started because Porthos noticed armies attacking his caravans and then disappearing into your city. Just so you know.

I'm sure a leader of the alliance will sort something out soon.
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and then I got this messgae form Beau:
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> Sent By: Beau
> Received By: Eoga
> Sent: 15JUN10 02:46
> Subject: Attacks
> Message: I thought I would respond to your message to us. The reason we are attacking you is you have attacked our caravans that were harvesting. Bumping a caravan with other caravan's is quite acceptable and is part of the game. But attacking a caravan that is gathering with your army is an aggresive action. Not only do you get the resources, you wipe out a caravan that has to be replaced.

While you may have only done it to one or two of our members, our alliance stands up for its own.

That is the importance of an alliance in this game.

Unfortunately I cannot control how long these attacks will continue.

regards
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So when I got a message from who I was let to believe was a lreader of GOON saying that he could not control how long the attacks would last, I treathened them. what else was I supposed to do? from my point of view he gave them an all acces pass to my resources and let everyone decide on their own when it was time to back off. I doubted treathening them would work but it was all I got do at that point to try and resolve this.

While I don't side with Eoga, those Goonies who have posted have not helped their side much.  I don't find those emails all that damning of Eoga, except they do show he has not done much to help himself.  If not for Eoga's own admissions, I could read in those emails that it was actually the Goonies and Numenor that were the aggressors.  I agree that the attacks should stop if Eoga apologizes and promises to stop further actions against these two alliances.

Well, at leased there is an interest in all of this. good t see a cry for help gets examined at the very leased. Not many on my side though.

also good to see that goon has started their own propaganda. Perhaps i should have started to count votes. we could make this into an election.

who's fvault is it? that was never my question though. because I never claimed to be innocent in this. although I do believe that the punishment doesn't fit the crime. All I ask for is a few days of peace and quite and you can't get that from thieves by playing nice. someone telling me that they can't tell me when the attacks will stop just means that their people all receive a free pass to loot. Whether they wanted to use it was their own choice.

If they really did not do this for anything other than resources they would have just stopped and waited for me to do something stupid so they can mow me down again. As Wuzzel explained, I am totally outmatches, they should have no problem doing so again.
 -Eoga


Edited by Eoga - 18 Jun 2010 at 03:57