NC-Bane war

Starry wrote: mer·ce·nar·y  (mûrs-nr) adj. 1. Motivated solely by a desire for monetary or material gain. 2. Hired for service in a foreign army. n. pl. mer·ce·nar·ies 1. One who serves or works merely for monetary gain; a hireling. 2. A professional soldier hired for service in a foreign army. Bane members have done more than hire out for tourneys, they have also been paid to hit players.   I Btw: you might want to read this topic:  http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/dark-knight-enterprises-bane_topic3997.html

mer·ce·nar·y  (mûrs-nr) adj. 1. Motivated solely by a desire for monetary or material gain. 2. Hired for service in a foreign army. n. pl. mer·ce·nar·ies 1. One who serves or works merely for monetary gain; a hireling. 2. A professional soldier hired for service in a foreign army.

Deranzin wrote:   Halcyon wrote: No more. For each account joining NC, there will be a Dark account to balance and even the odds, until there are no more Dark account. Isn't this a bit of an arrogant declaration .?. You do not OWN your alliance members, after all ... Halcyon: I agree, I got carried away with my rhetoric, but the fact is that at least at this time I am not aware of Dark members that do not support my actions (some of them may not approve of my words, like you, but if they don't, they are yet to express it. Halcyon wrote: NC can't win this war by themselves so they should end the war instead of adding power from outside. The same can be said for BOTH SIDES though ... I have no problem with people taking sides openly, but, dude, either apply equal standards for both sides, or stop covering the double standards because it is actually hurting your cause instead of helping it. Halcyon: I thought I made myself clear enough: NC is not winning this war by themselves, they are wining it with help from other alliances and in growing numbers, so why shouldn't Bane be denied the same? Same standards to both sides: Either no outside reinforcements, or at least equal outside reinforcements. My antagonists in this thread support only NC being reinforced and I can't agree to it.  Halcyon wrote: Since they are continuing to add power means that they are calling my bluff. I'm not bluffing. Well, you might not be bluffing, but if you read your posts you sure are contradicting yourself about your intentions of entering the war or not ... Halcyon: I was attempting to be very clear: Dark does not want to enter this war, but it can't stand by while it is being decided by reinforcements to just one side. Halcyon wrote: I've made another offer: remove all those who joined the war after it began and let the real NC and the real Bane fight it out. NC does not need it's allies to win a war, do they? If you deny this and continue to allow NC to be reinforced, why shouldn't Bane do the same. You have yet to inform us whether you made the same offer to BANE and what was their reply. Also, in such a case shouldn't the side offering such a deal make the start in a show of good will .?. Also, noone objected so far in BOTH Bane and NC recruiting people, apart from you, who wants only ONE SIDE to stop doing it. Isn't that a bit far-fetched .? Halcyon: 1. Bane will accept my offer, it was rejected by NC. 2. Bane is already 400k below NC in the population of the reinforcing accounts. The stepping out of the war should be done at the same time and this can be done very easily: both sides agree to it and do it at the same time. Again, it is NC that does not agree to it. [QUOTE=Deranzin]  Bottom line : The war is between NC and BANE and let them fight it as they like. Whoever wants to support EITHER side should be able to join the fray and, last I heard, there is no overseer of what alliance and what wars an individual player can join in Illyriad, so I do not know how you thought that trying to place one-sided rules on other players was a good PR idea. Halcyon: I was not trying to place one-sided rules on anyone, the opposite is true. I'm saying that while I don't think that any side should be reinforced, at this time just 1 side is being reinforced and Dark won't stand for it. Either no reinforcements whatsoever, or at least equal reinforcements.

Weeeell, finally a forum argument ... but somehow the actual people involved in the war are absent ... shouldn't we stop talking about other people's affairs, mind our own business and let them do their thing .?. 

But since the topic exists, some things are worth noting/commending upon.

abstractdream wrote: Is it just me who wonders how an alliance can stand by another without taking action?

It is actually quite easy ... it will act as a scarecrow for anyone else that would like to jump ship for one particular side and it will give a bigger leverage for the other side to appear stronger and, thus, recruit more efficiently.

Halcyon wrote: No more. For each account joining NC, there will be a Dark account to balance and even the odds, until there are no more Dark account.

Isn't this a bit of an arrogant declaration .?. You do not OWN your alliance members, after all ...

Halcyon wrote: NC can't win this war by themselves so they should end the war instead of adding power from outside.

The same can be said for BOTH SIDES though ... I have no problem with people taking sides openly, but, dude, either apply equal standards for both sides, or stop covering the double standards because it is actually hurting your cause instead of helping it.

Halcyon wrote: Since they are continuing to add power means that they are calling my bluff. I'm not bluffing.

Well, you might not be bluffing, but if you read your posts you sure are contradicting yourself about your intentions of entering the war or not ...

Halcyon wrote: I've made another offer: remove all those who joined the war after it began and let the real NC and the real Bane fight it out. NC does not need it's allies to win a war, do they? If you deny this and continue to allow NC to be reinforced, why shouldn't Bane do the same.

• You have yet to inform us whether you made the same offer to BANE and what was their reply.
• Also, in such a case shouldn't the side offering such a deal make the start in a show of good will .?.
• Also, noone objected so far in BOTH Bane and NC recruiting people, apart from you, who wants only ONE SIDE to stop doing it. Isn't that a bit far-fetched .?.

Bottom line : The war is between NC and BANE and let them fight it as they like. Whoever wants to support EITHER side should be able to join the fray and, last I heard, there is no overseer of what alliance and what wars an individual player can join in Illyriad, so I do not know how you thought that trying to place one-sided rules on other players was a good PR idea.

Disclaimer:
All the above is just my personal opinion on what I see in this thread ALONE and I have no interest in the war ... in fact I even noticed it during the last week and I know no facts about it (why it is fought, who started it, who is winning etc), but as you can see this thread is not really helping its cause ...

Starry wrote: You need to stay out of it, let them fight until both sides are ready to seek peace.

Angrim strokes his beard.

does H? have some interest in the outcome of this contest?  i am sensitive to the spin (no one here is fighting for "justice"), but last i knew H? made no apologies for aiding its confeds, declared or otherwise, and i'm curious why it's become such a point of contention that DARK should be considering doing the same.