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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2013 at 16:06
just get off ur high horse and declare...omg its so obvious...everyone in this forum including me are so full of it...this is why most people dont read these forums...its always full of lies and misdirection...anyone following the game knows whats up and i hate the mind games being played...u wonder why we have declining player base...its a game that allows so few to gather so much game strength..declare! all this bs is just ruinning the game for othersClap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2013 at 16:18
Originally posted by Starry Starry wrote:

there have been some very bad decisions made in this war, you are now adding to it.


I agree to your statement Starry:
1) Start the war on a ridiculous pretext.
2)Support NC and their ridiculous pretext.
3)Reinforce NC and their failed war.
4)Continue to support NC and refuse to accept peace.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2013 at 16:19
Originally posted by twilights twilights wrote:

just get off ur high horse and declare


My horse is a pigmy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2013 at 16:22
Originally posted by twilights twilights wrote:

just get off ur high horse and declare...omg its so obvious...everyone in this forum including me are so full of it...this is why most people dont read these forums...its always full of lies and misdirection...anyone following the game knows whats up and i hate the mind games being played...u wonder why we have declining player base...its a game that allows so few to gather so much game strength..declare! all this bs is just ruinning the game for othersClap


Dammit! I'm bringing my best rethoric and finness to this thread, and this is what I get!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2013 at 16:48
Originally posted by Halcyon Halcyon wrote:

If you expect that I'll continue to sit idle while NC's allies continue to add members to their lines, you are mistaken.
NC can't win this war by themselves so they should end the war instead of adding power from outside.
Since they are continuing to add power means that they are calling my bluff. I'm not bluffing.
If it was up to me, this war would never have started and will end today. I believe you in H? have the power to end it today.
NC did not do enough to deserve a surrender. They should settle for unconditional peacen and not try to finish it with their allies.
I've made another offer: remove all those who joined the war after it began and let the real NC and the real Bane fight it out. NC does not need it's allies to win a war, do they?
If you deny this and continue to allow NC to be reinforced, why shouldn't Bane do the same.
It pains me that Dark who was a part of The Coalition and fought side by side with H? NC and the rest of our allies, must now stand against them, but Dark always does what we believe to be right, and opposing the current reinforcment of NC so that they could win their war is the only right thing to do. You can't deny it to the other side.
Stop the war now, stop reinforcing NC, or stop claiming this is a spin (you can continue claiming what ever you want )

Methinks anyone else who considered siding with the BANE-side just pissed their pants when they saw they would be up against the mighty H?.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2013 at 16:51
Originally posted by Halcyon Halcyon wrote:

If you expect that I'll continue to sit idle while NC's allies continue to add members to their lines, you are mistaken.NC can't win this war by themselves so they should end the war instead of adding power from outside.
Since they are continuing to add power means that they are calling my bluff. I'm not bluffing.
If it was up to me, this war would never have started and will end today. I believe you in H? have the power to end it today.
NC did not do enough to deserve a surrender. They should settle for unconditional peacen and not try to finish it with their allies.
I've made another offer: remove all those who joined the war after it began and let the real NC and the real Bane fight it out. NC does not need it's allies to win a war, do they?
If you deny this and continue to allow NC to be reinforced, why shouldn't Bane do the same.
It pains me that Dark who was a part of The Coalition and fought side by side with H? NC and the rest of our allies, must now stand against them, but Dark always does what we believe to be right, and opposing the current reinforcment of NC so that they could win their war is the only right thing to do. You can't deny it to the other side.
Stop the war now, stop reinforcing NC, or stop claiming this is a spin (you can continue claiming what ever you want  )

H is not involved in this war, we have been very clear that we do not belong in this war.   We have not provided support to NC in any way shape or form.    No H troops have been involved in this war and to my knowledge, none of the other former Coalition alliances are involved either.   Get your facts straight and please stop posting untruths.     Your posts are becoming very offensive, Halcyon.

Originally posted by Halcyon Halcyon wrote:

Originally posted by Starry Starry wrote:

there have been some very bad decisions made in this war, you are now adding to it.


I agree to your statement Starry:
1) Start the war on a ridiculous pretext.
2)Support NC and their ridiculous pretext.
3)Reinforce NC and their failed war.
4)Continue to support NC and refuse to accept peace.

That is not what I said, stop twisting my words and look for a solution instead of escalating the war.    Alliances fight wars just to fight all the time, what is not acceptable are other alliances piling on opponents when their "buddy" is losing.     If you want to be a good friend, I suggest you counsel him to explore other peaceful options.  

Make no mistake, you are threatening to escalate this war, all the points you've posted do not belie the fact that in the war between BANE and NC, BANE has the advantage in numbers.    The numbers are public, anyone can do the math.

AGAIN, you know that Harmless is not involved in this war, we have been very clear on this issue.

In all my years of gaming I have never seen a Mercenary Alliance cry for help.....geez.    This is becoming very pathetic.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2013 at 17:22
Originally posted by Starry Starry wrote:

You need to stay out of it, let them fight until both sides are ready to seek peace.
Angrim strokes his beard.

does H? have some interest in the outcome of this contest?  i am sensitive to the spin (no one here is fighting for "justice"), but last i knew H? made no apologies for aiding its confeds, declared or otherwise, and i'm curious why it's become such a point of contention that DARK should be considering doing the same.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2013 at 17:41
If H? does not support NC why am I crossing words with Starry and KP?
Fine, you are not supporting NC.
Why can TVM join on NC's side and Dark can't join on Bane's side. How is it different?
I say once again that I do not want to join this war, as I have been telling interested parties for weeks. Yet TVM is joining and it is okay because the gap between NC and Bane - which was known to NC when they declared war - must close? Did NC wait for Bane to retrain their soldiers before declaring war? What was the gap in troop numbers when NC declared and what is the gap now when TVM is bringing fresh troops to NC's side?
Call off TVM, or don't lecture me that I'm escelating.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2013 at 17:52
Weeeell, finally a forum argument ... but somehow the actual people involved in the war are absent ... shouldn't we stop talking about other people's affairs, mind our own business and let them do their thing .?. Wink

But since the topic exists, some things are worth noting/commending upon.

Originally posted by abstractdream abstractdream wrote:

Is it just me who wonders how an alliance can stand by another without taking action? 


It is actually quite easy ... it will act as a scarecrow for anyone else that would like to jump ship for one particular side and it will give a bigger leverage for the other side to appear stronger and, thus, recruit more efficiently.

Originally posted by Halcyon Halcyon wrote:


No more. For each account joining NC, there will be a Dark account to balance and even the odds, until there are no more Dark account.


Isn't this a bit of an arrogant declaration .?. You do not OWN your alliance members, after all ...

Originally posted by Halcyon Halcyon wrote:


NC can't win this war by themselves so they should end the war instead of adding power from outside.


The same can be said for BOTH SIDES though ... I have no problem with people taking sides openly, but, dude, either apply equal standards for both sides, or stop covering the double standards because it is actually hurting your cause instead of helping it. Tongue

Originally posted by Halcyon Halcyon wrote:


Since they are continuing to add power means that they are calling my bluff. I'm not bluffing.


Well, you might not be bluffing, but if you read your posts you sure are contradicting yourself about your intentions of entering the war or not ...


Originally posted by Halcyon Halcyon wrote:


I've made another offer: remove all those who joined the war after it began and let the real NC and the real Bane fight it out. NC does not need it's allies to win a war, do they?

If you deny this and continue to allow NC to be reinforced, why shouldn't Bane do the same.


  • You have yet to inform us whether you made the same offer to BANE and what was their reply.
  • Also, in such a case shouldn't the side offering such a deal make the start in a show of good will .?. Wink
  • Also, noone objected so far in BOTH Bane and NC recruiting people, apart from you, who wants only ONE SIDE to stop doing it. Isn't that a bit far-fetched .?.

Bottom line :
The war is between NC and BANE and let them fight it as they like. Whoever wants to support EITHER side should be able to join the fray and, last I heard, there is no overseer of what alliance and what wars an individual player can join in Illyriad, so I do not know how you thought that trying to place one-sided rules on other players was a good PR idea.

Disclaimer:
All the above is just my personal opinion on what I see in this thread ALONE and I have no interest in the war ... in fact I even noticed it during the last week and I know no facts about it (why it is fought, who started it, who is winning etc), but as you can see this thread is not really helping its cause ...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Sep 2013 at 18:00
Originally posted by Starry Starry wrote:

 

Your posts are becoming very offensive, Halcyon.


In all my years of gaming I have never seen a Mercenary Alliance cry for help.....geez.    This is becoming very pathetic.  


I believe that things were said in this thread that might have been offensive to me too, regardless, if my choice of words offended you, I apologize and will attempt to better it.

To my knowledge, Bane was never paid to be in a war, only in 2 tournaments and in tournaments a lot of deals are made. I think what you said here is irrelevant.
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