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Spheniscidae wrote: Gragnog wrote: Seems a lot of people have issues with the tiny little pitbulls. My perception is a bunch of players playing a war game and then getting complaints about them playing a war game. Perhaps some clear facts laid out here would help. As far as I recall NC only ever declared wars on equal sized or larger alliances (My memory may be a bit hazy due to working in the field so much lately). How this makes them bullies is above me. Their methods of diplomacy are also different to what others view as correct but this does not make them bad. I myself tend to resort to launch first and then talk. Now if someone has facts, and not opinions, just list them here and then everyone can make their own decisions. OP, colour coded for facts (which may or may not be accurate), opinions, and filler. I see more red than green...

Read the last line a few times. I repeat, read the last line a few times.

Gragnog wrote: If you bothered to read the initial post in this thread you would actually realize that this thread is not here to argue a point but list facts. Go troll the other threads for opinions. Please folks, lets keep it to facts.

Tamaeon wrote: Sir Bradly wrote: Halcyon wrote: "NC decalred on Bane for some made up reason." Hal, this is completely false.  Bane was extremely aggressive claiming sov on adjacent tiles next to a trainee in The Night Squires.  When said player was asked to remove the sov, he was rude and decided to claim more.  Malek finally got involved and assured me the claims would be removed.  The claims were level 1 and level 2 claims.  8 days later they were still there.  NC declared war on Bane to protect NS from their aggression. Actually the BANE player had been in the area for months and had claimed sovereignty long before the NS player (Jack_Ketch) spawned there. In fact, the day NC declared on BANE... Jack_Ketch had a whopping 112 population! Which basically means he was literally weeks away from even researching sovereignty!!  Your argument is further weakened by the fact that no established player in their right mind, would EVER cede sovereignty to a player who spawns next to his/her city. Typical procedure is to politely inform the player that he's better off moving elsewhere. Malek was very nice in caving to your demand; and asking a member of his alliance to cede sovereignty to a noob. How many people out there would even entertain such a request? The facts (and your words) speak for themselves. The aggressor in this case was NC. Sir Bradly wrote: Halcyon wrote: NC continued their aggression against Celtic Knights. RE diplomats asked us for help.  I have a mail from Ajeka to his alliance stating they were going to wipe out RE.  RE was 240,000 vs xCKx which had over 2 million population.  I have offered peace to xCKx numerous times.  However they are not interested.  Our goal was to stop hostilities against RE.  It worked.  NC has no ill will towards xCKx and would happily sign a peace deal.  But, the other side appears to not be interested. Interesting that you would mention the mail Ajeka sent to his alliance. A message which you acquired either directly or indirectly, through shady means. This is especially ironic if you consider that the main reason xCKx declared on RE, was outrage over the fact that RE was spying on them! If your goal really was end hostilities... why didn't you negotiate an end to the conflict, instead of declaring war on xCKx and involving your alliance in the war? I'm sure the threat of force alone, would have been enough to get xCKx to accept peace. Once again, the facts speak for themselves. Sir Bradly wrote: Halcyon wrote: It was clear that NC was never going to stop without someone stopping them. You are right, NC will not stop defending NS or other small alliances LMFAO!!  Sir Bradly wrote: If anyone in the community has questions, feel free to send me an igm.   Why not continue to argue your case right here?

That's a very fair point, Vanerin...

The really huge point is that Consone had a combined population that was server controlling and absolutely massive (larger than the Crowalition or the H? Coalition) and NC has a tiny population in relation...

So... it's kind of like the difference between watching your 2 year old clear their play table of blocks and a megalition potentially smash hundreds of cities... (bad analogy, I know, but I have a 2 year old, so I see the violence of the blocks regularly!)

But I would highly recommend you get to know them more, as they are really nice, good folks!

Halcyon wrote: H? could have let that war play out between the two warring alliances, as they were adamant NC's wars play out without intervention. they chose to declare on EE.

So firstly, after Hath's famous forum post was made public you're really trying to claim that the EE war dec was about only two warring alliances?  Hahahaha - nice try.

Secondly, as discussed elsewhere, EE reneged on a peace agreement and declared despite there being no new issues between their alliances since that peace agreement was "signed".

"We have a cast of thousands behind us and we're going to get some revenge"

This is the bullying behavior you are defending and yet you cannot see how it's as bad if not worse than that of which you accuse NC (wrongly as we've seen in the last couple of pages).

Seems you have forgotten all your supposed high morals and ideals.