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Points: 31 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 16:20
It isn't true SB that this started with RE conflict with CK

For long ever since the tourney after Consone war..you were trying to instigate the Crows and you know it well how...

I don't know if the close fight to the top made those thoughts strong...Shocked


and those including H? leadership were well made aware of the mis- adventures... and ppl who are responding in these forums are well aware of that....

The stance from H? was very clear on taking on any alliance attacking NC irrespective of its deeds in a way sponsoring and encouraging all its actions till now

The very fact that NC has survived after what it has done so far is coz of H? patronage and protection

It was very clear NC was carrying out these actions to achieve a specific outcome

Force the Crows into a war

http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/discussing-the-current-war_topic5289_page2.html

Disclaimer. This is just me expressing my opinionWink
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Points: 234 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 15:45
Originally posted by Spheniscidae Spheniscidae wrote:

I don't remember the last time Celtic Knights fought in any war.

I do - about 4 weeks ago, when they started sieging RE, a much smaller alliance than them. That is the sole reason we went to war with CK. The offer we made (which still stands) is that if CK will make peace with RE, then NC will make peace with CK. No punishment, no reparations, no other terms.

But CK and now uCrow do not want peace, and this offer has been rejected. That's fine, but it is their choice, not ours. They bear the responsibility for the war and everything it has grown into.

The game of blaming NC for targeting poor, little CK falls apart when you look at the facts. And the fact that they refuse peace when it is offered to them without condition just goes to show that they (CK and uCrow) want this war, and they want it to escalate.

They are welcome to prove me wrong. Tameaon and Ajeka - offer peace in game to NC and RE. It will be accepted.

If you want peace, take it. It's yours. If you want war, that is your choice, but please stop pretending you want peace when you don't.


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Points: 1013 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 15:31
Originally posted by Sir Bradly Sir Bradly wrote:



The time for posturing is over.  We stand by our actions.  We will defend NC until the last city stands.  If you want to attempt to extract your "pound of flesh" from us, now is your chance.  

SB

"Meat is back on the menu boys!"

Sorry SB, meant nothing by it, just couldn't resist an Urak-hai quote. 

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Points: 464 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 15:27
And TVM states that players should not be afraid or ashamed of war in Illyriad.  But come knocking on their doorstep and you get death threats.

You can't have it both ways, pick one and stick with it.
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Points: 2224 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 15:19
Originally posted by Spheniscidae Spheniscidae wrote:

Originally posted by Gragnog Gragnog wrote:

...NC only ever declared wars on equal sized or larger alliances... 

This line of propaganda? It is getting old. Population size is not the only indicator of success in war. BANE was weakened by a tourney, and I don't remember the last time Celtic Knights fought in any war. Whereas NC has a wealth of troops, experience and has been able to "pick and choose" the time they start their wars.


Please. Stop the pathetic Bane apologies. They were a self described MERCENARY alliance. Mercs aren't gardeners. Nor chefs. Nor hairdressers. They are military professionals.

Anyone claiming that Bane at more than 2x NC's size was picked on is drinking some very potent coolaid.
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Points: 228 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 15:15
Since this topic is about NC, perhaps I should say something.

Since our inception in June 2012, we have experienced some warfare.  I could lay out our justification for each and every war here in this forum.  However, experience tells me, I would be wasting my time and energy.  I am absolutely positive everyone's mind is made up at this point.  Being at war with 10 alliances is a clear sign we are past the "lets talk this out stage".  

The time for posturing is over.  We stand by our actions.  We will defend NC until the last city stands.  If you want to attempt to extract your "pound of flesh" from us, now is your chance.  

We will not apologize or surrender to pack of jackals that surround us.

As far as I am concerned, the conversation is over.  

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Points: 117 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 14:55
Originally posted by Gragnog Gragnog wrote:

...NC only ever declared wars on equal sized or larger alliances... 

This line of propaganda? It is getting old. Population size is not the only indicator of success in war. BANE was weakened by a tourney, and I don't remember the last time Celtic Knights fought in any war. Whereas NC has a wealth of troops, experience and has been able to "pick and choose" the time they start their wars.
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Points: 598 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 14:33
Seems a lot of people have issues with the tiny little pitbulls. My perception is a bunch of players playing a war game and then getting complaints about them playing a war game. Perhaps some clear facts laid out here would help. As far as I recall NC only ever declared wars on equal sized or larger alliances (My memory may be a bit hazy due to working in the field so much lately). How this makes them bullies is above me. Their methods of diplomacy are also different to what others view as correct but this does not make them bad. I myself tend to resort to launch first and then talk. Now if someone has facts, and not opinions, just list them here and then everyone can make their own decisions.
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