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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Sep 2010 at 19:44
Originally posted by Callous Callous wrote:

Is the 'not within 10 squares of another player' requirement mean that each city has a 20x20 square centered on them (10 on left, 10 on right, 10 above, 10 below) that we can't settle in, or is it a linear distance e.g. 8 squares over and 8 squares up would be a distance greater than 10 (~11.3), but diagonally would be less than 10 squares away. i.e. a circle around them, or a square?


Just wanted to repeat that question, as it isn't answered yet (somewhat drowned under all the other ones). Would be useful to know, if we've got to think in squares or circles Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 10:37
As well as the above  i'd like to know if its possible to settle on NPC squares?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 15:14
Originally posted by Fateful Ending Fateful Ending wrote:

As well as the above  i'd like to know if its possible to settle on NPC squares?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 15:23
Originally posted by Hora Hora wrote:

Originally posted by Callous Callous wrote:

Is the 'not within 10 squares of another player' requirement mean that each city has a 20x20 square centered on them (10 on left, 10 on right, 10 above, 10 below) that we can't settle in, or is it a linear distance e.g. 8 squares over and 8 squares up would be a distance greater than 10 (~11.3), but diagonally would be less than 10 squares away. i.e. a circle around them, or a square?


Just wanted to repeat that question, as it isn't answered yet (somewhat drowned under all the other ones). Would be useful to know, if we've got to think in squares or circles Wink


As we do most all distance ingame, an edged-circular pythagorean distance of 10 squares from another alliance's city. 

a²+b²=c²

(PS - no idea why those extra "A"s and hats have appeared... I've obv caught another player's disease here - will look into the encoding in the stylesheets!)

What I mean is a(squared) + b(squared) = c(squared), where a and b are at right-angles to each other.

This means that a square 8 across and 8 up is 11.3 squares away, ie far enough away to settle, however 7 across and 7 up is 9.9 squares away, therefore too close; and 7 across by 8 up is 10.6 squares away (and is therefore fine to settle).

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Originally posted by Fateful Ending Fateful Ending wrote:

As well as the above  i'd like to know if its possible to settle on NPC squares?
No


Correct, you won't be able to settle on NPC squares or "unsettlable squares" such as water.

Best,

SC


Edited by GM Stormcrow - 30 Sep 2010 at 15:29
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 20:15
Ok, thx SC

will have to do some calculating right before moving Confused,
but seems the only way sensible Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 20:39
So...  yea... you explained in maths.

How bout in picture?

[C] = City
[N] = You can't settle there
[Y] = You can settle there

Which do you mean?  (I think its Figure B, but actually hope you mean Figure A.)

Figure A
[Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y]
[Y][Y][Y][Y][N][Y][Y][Y][Y]
[Y][Y][Y][N][N][N][Y][Y][Y]
[Y][Y][N][N][N][N][N][Y][Y]
[Y][N][N][N][C][N][N][N][Y]
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[Y][Y][Y][N][N][N][Y][Y][Y]
[Y][Y][Y][Y][N][Y][Y][Y][Y]
[Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y]

Figure B
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[Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][N][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y]
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 21:08
Originally posted by Zangi Zangi wrote:

So...  yea... you explained in maths.

How bout in picture?

[C] = City
[N] = You can't settle there
[Y] = You can settle there

Which do you mean?  (I think its Figure B, but actually hope you mean Figure A.)

Figure A
[Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y]
[Y][Y][Y][Y][N][Y][Y][Y][Y]
[Y][Y][Y][N][N][N][Y][Y][Y]
[Y][Y][N][N][N][N][N][Y][Y]
[Y][N][N][N][C][N][N][N][Y]
[Y][Y][N][N][N][N][N][Y][Y]
[Y][Y][Y][N][N][N][Y][Y][Y]
[Y][Y][Y][Y][N][Y][Y][Y][Y]
[Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y]

Figure B
[Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y]
[Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][N][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y]
[Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][N][N][N][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y]
[Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][N][N][N][N][N][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y]
[Y][Y][Y][Y][Y][N][N][N][N][N][N][N][Y][Y][Y][Y][Y]
[Y][Y][Y][Y][N][N][N][N][N][N][N][N][N][Y][Y][Y][Y]
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[Y][Y][N][N][N][N][N][N][N][N][N][N][N][N][N][Y][Y]
[Y][N][N][N][N][N][N][N][C][N][N][N][N][N][N][N][Y]
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I interpret it as neither. In a straight line (ie n,s,e,or w) it should be 10. Yours only shows 7 in your Figure B...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 21:52
Originally posted by Zangi Zangi wrote:

So...  yea... you explained in maths.

How bout in picture?

[C] = City
[N] = You can't settle there
[Y] = You can settle there


You're a slightly deranged individual, Zangi - if you don't mind me saying Wink

And both your diagrams are wrong :)

Go 8 along and 1 up from the center.

(8x8) + (1x1) = 64
sqrt(64) = 8

8 < 10 (and is fine to settle)

Best,

SC

(EDIT - it's a circle, not a diamond)


Edited by GM Stormcrow - 30 Sep 2010 at 21:53
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 22:45
Originally posted by GM Stormcrow GM Stormcrow wrote:

Originally posted by Zangi Zangi wrote:

So...  yea... you explained in maths.

How bout in picture?

[C] = City
[N] = You can't settle there
[Y] = You can settle there


You're a slightly deranged individual, Zangi - if you don't mind me saying Wink

And both your diagrams are wrong :)

Go 8 along and 1 up from the center.

(8x8) + (1x1) = 64
sqrt(64) = 8

8 < 10 (and is fine to settle)

Best,

SC

(EDIT - it's a circle, not a diamond)


Quoting for posterity.  I hope the in game algorithms are this mathematically sound...  ;)
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