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    Posted: 04 May 2014 at 14:02
All the limbo armies were destroyed in the last attack.

Your army was driven back and enemy units have taken control of this location.

Your defending army was entirely destroyed at [400|-504] in Turalia by h2Oxy's forces from AquaFire

Attackers:Unit:Quantity:Casualties:Survivors:
Commander: KnightTaukeyKnights Knight1Damaged for 0, 150 health remains.
Troops:Knights Knights3260326


Defenders:Unit:Quantity:Casualties:Survivors:
Troops:Swiftsteeds Swiftsteeds110
Troops:Swiftsteeds Swiftsteeds110
Commander: Commander 2Swiftsteeds Swiftsteed1Damaged for 100, 0 health remains.
Troops:Swiftsteeds Swiftsteeds110
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Armies in limbo on the tournament square, gaining tournament time. (Petition number 9910) Happened after this particular attack where there was no casualties despite a failed defence.

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Subject: FW: Failed defense by Mariabronne's forces at [400|-504] in Turalia under attack by h2Oxy's forces from Lovely
Received: 04 May 2014 10:55
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Two opposing forces clash against each other.

Cavalry comes into its own when able to strike hostile forces at will, and from unexpected directions - and nowhere is this more feasible than on open plains. Lightly armoured spear units, however, prefer terrain where there's some cover available.

Fighting defensively on open plains, cavalry draws strength from the ability to form and reform their lines of engagement depending on the direction of battle, and it is here where cavalry excels.

Attackers:Unit:Quantity:Casualties:Survivors:
Troops:Charioteers Charioteers77077
Commander: NewerKnightKnights Knight1Damaged for 0, 100 health remains.
Troops:Knights Knights3320332


Defenders:Unit:Quantity:Casualties:Survivors:
Commander: Commander 2Swiftsteeds Swiftsteed1Damaged for 100, 0 health remains.
Troops:Swiftsteeds Swiftsteeds101
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Thanks for letting me know you're looking into it SC. This is just a reminder that they're still missing. It would be nice to have them home  before all our cities are dust.  Thanks!
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Still unassigned. Confused
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Hey Stormcrow, I still have missing troops that haven't been returned from this whole fiasco on my alt. Since we're kind of in a heated war still it would be nice to get them back some day.

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Originally posted by GM Stormcrow GM Stormcrow wrote:


Originally posted by Albatross Albatross wrote:


Given that you use transactional processing, is it possible to extend the fail condition to also include a NULL test, either in the db engine or in the db-calling block?

It's nice that you're getting the support you are from software providers.

I feel very different when coding in environments that I suspect do not work as specified. All kinds of doubts creep in, and coding (or making changes) unnecessarily defensively is difficult.


Hi albatross,

Yup, that's basically what we've put in the Stored Procs that <span style="line-height: 1.4;">call in, those that </span><span style="line-height: 1.4;">were definitely affected by this single instance.  As mentioned, I do broadly regard this as temporary sticky-plaster and bubblegum.</span>

But as you rightly say, the concern is that if it's happened here and we don't yet know why... then it may also happen elsewhere in the future.  And if I have to write specific isnull handlers for every select and where statement in the codebase that looks at a NOT NULLable column, I can probably kiss goodbye to the next X months Ouch; which is why it's important the vendor is involved!

SC


hmm...what with all these glitches and bugs SC...do I get a rebate on my illy membership payments?
NO..I dont do the Fandango!
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Originally posted by Albatross Albatross wrote:

Given that you use transactional processing, is it possible to extend the fail condition to also include a NULL test, either in the db engine or in the db-calling block?

It's nice that you're getting the support you are from software providers.

I feel very different when coding in environments that I suspect do not work as specified. All kinds of doubts creep in, and coding (or making changes) unnecessarily defensively is difficult.
Hi albatross,

Yup, that's basically what we've put in the Stored Procs that call in, those that were definitely affected by this single instance.  As mentioned, I do broadly regard this as temporary sticky-plaster and bubblegum.

But as you rightly say, the concern is that if it's happened here and we don't yet know why... then it may also happen elsewhere in the future.  And if I have to write specific isnull handlers for every select and where statement in the codebase that looks at a NOT NULLable column, I can probably kiss goodbye to the next X months Ouch; which is why it's important the vendor is involved!

SC
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Given that you use transactional processing, is it possible to extend the fail condition to also include a NULL test, either in the db engine or in the db-calling block?

It's nice that you're getting the support you are from software providers.

I feel very different when coding in environments that I suspect do not work as specified. All kinds of doubts creep in, and coding (or making changes) unnecessarily defensively is difficult.
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Originally posted by Angrim Angrim wrote:

getting a NULL into a NOT NULL column sounds medal-worthy.
We think so!  Not sure our database vendor agrees :)

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

Stormcrow, have you ever considered repositioning Illyriad Ltd. as a bug-finding enterprise?  
One of the most perfect technical descriptions of the current illyriad corp I've ever read Wink

Originally posted by Merlinus Merlinus wrote:

Has anybody looked into the .round function--32 v. 64 bit for time lag crashes? Just wondering.
tbh Merlinus, that question is probably above my pay grade. I'll ask TC.

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Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

Stormcrow, have you ever considered repositioning Illyriad Ltd. as a bug-finding enterprise?  Where you create value by testing the limits of software and hardware architecture and identifying bugs for organizations like Google?

You could put us players on salaries and pay us to break stuff!

Rather not, Rill. I have been a professional breaker of code (AKA QA manager) long enough, and am currently retired Geek
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