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Stukahh
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Joined: 03 Feb 2015 Location: Fellandire, BL Status: Offline Points: 266 |
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Posted: 03 Aug 2015 at 18:32 |
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Diva, perhaps you should check with players like MicroMe. We have worked out a very peaceful agreement to move a recently settled city within our LC. She has agreed to exodus into another part of Fellandire outside our claim. We have worked out an agreement whereby SIN has been sending her resources and supporting her work towards the lvl 20 warehouse (exodus research).
There was no threats made. Just two players talking and working out a mutually satisifying resolution. With respect to King Stag. You do not know the entire story. SIN has a mountain of evidence that the player had close ties with Stomp members. Of course, we will not reveal our vetting process since it would be damaging to how we screen for spies. We reserve the right to keep potential spy accounts out. The player has sinced moved out of Felllandire into Shark hub in Newlands ( how predictable). Again, no attacks or sieges occurred. Since the SIN LC came into effect not a single account has been sieged. We have worked out all issues by diplomacy to date. We have good relations with our neighbors in BL and plan on keeping it that way.
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Angrim
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Posted: 03 Aug 2015 at 17:52 |
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Diva
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Posted: 03 Aug 2015 at 16:29 |
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FORTUNE TELLERS GOT NOTHING ON ME!! Somewhere I predicted LC wouldn't like someone/alliances in the LC ... and forcibly move them. Dear poster of thread... you ain't the only one recently to have this issue.
ps: If it was not an lc, more than likely you wouldn't have to move, just change alliances.. easy peasy.. instead of a timely exit or threat. Hmmmmm.... Edited by Diva - 03 Aug 2015 at 16:43 |
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Bimoda
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Posted: 03 Aug 2015 at 15:58 |
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Very well put KP.
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KillerPoodle
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Posted: 03 Aug 2015 at 15:50 |
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A very open alliance only works if you are sure you'll never be in a war, never be fighting in a tournament and never have any information which gives you a competitive advantage over others in your game play style of choice.
My experience is that most players (even those stridently self-righteous ones that talk about how disgraceful it is) are fine with spying while it's being done to someone else and especially when they are are benefiting from it. The mature folk accept it as part of the game, utilize it where they can, defend against it as best they can without letting it consume every waking moment and have fun burning spies when they get the opportunity. |
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Bimoda
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Posted: 03 Aug 2015 at 15:29 |
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Spying is there whether you want to be a part of it or not. If you are an alliance of any decent size, you will most likely have at least one spy in your midst. I've known of several in Fairy over the years and know of two currently. It's part of the game. You can choose to participate in it or not, guard against it or not.
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twilights
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Posted: 14 Jun 2015 at 16:46 |
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gosh its a silly strategy game, but usually u wipe out spies when u catch them which i am surprised sin isnt doing...but dont relate spying in a game that has features to actually encourage it to be nothing more than fair game play..thats one reason i want sitting and alts limited only within alliance....its too easy to spy in this game and you never know who you are actually chatting to within your own alliance...weak game play i call that and the reason so many use skype and offline mailing which only discourages active play in this game...otherwords too many special clubs and few groups of power brokers controlling the game....but spying is just normal play....kill the account and be done with it!
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Veneke
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Posted: 14 Jun 2015 at 16:42 |
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In general terms spying is a thoroughly deplorable practice. I've no doubt, especially with the ability to have alternate accounts, that is is rife throughout the game. I completely agree with Bonfyr - leadership of all alliances must operate under the assumption that there is a spy in the alliance. To do otherwise is utterly reckless and does a disservice to those players who join your alliance in good faith and rely upon said leadership to ensure the safety of that alliance.
I don't know the particulars of what happened here - but from what you alone have said anyone would have reason to believe that you were relaying information back to your friend in another alliance. Add to that, of all the alliances you could have found your way into the alliance you were in was SIN... it might just be poor luck. If it was, then that's really unfortunate.
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Brandmeister
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Posted: 14 Jun 2015 at 16:33 |
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Being a basically transparent alliance limits the damage that spies can do. From that perspective, the strategy works, independent of ethical considerations.
You may consider it egocentric that I look down on spying in video games. So be it. But spying isn't a play style, it's a deliberate breach of trust among people who treat you as an online friend. The fact that it occurs in the context of a game just makes it more petty, because you are selling out a real human interaction (albeit online) for zero real gain. It's the equivalent of cheating at your weekly poker night with the guys. Can that happen? Yes. But from a social perspective it's bad form to cheat your buddies for a measly $10, and a little disturbing that it would make someone feel clever for getting away with it, in an atmosphere of trust and camaraderie. |
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abstractdream
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Posted: 14 Jun 2015 at 16:14 |
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Your play interests go in a different direction than others'. That does not mean you're a better person for it. That sort of egocentric view naturally limits your perspective.
Sure let's all have no secrets...lol
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