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JimJams 
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 Topic: Military outfitter
Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 00:52 |
 Rill wrote:
/me goes to check out hilarious beer prices
hmmm ... maybe that beer sov is worthwhile after all ... |
Good beer is priceless :-)
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dunnoob
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Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 00:49 |
Rill wrote:
hmmm ... maybe that beer sov is worthwhile after all ... |
Apparently it doesn't work for wine at the moment, I filed a petition. Brewer II on a sov V while waiting for all these outfitter researches to finish. No trader, no outfit, but at least selling some steamtastic ersatz-beer. 
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Rill
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Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 00:35 |
/me goes to check out hilarious beer prices
hmmm ... maybe that beer sov is worthwhile after all ...
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dunnoob
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Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 23:07 |
Bonaparta wrote:
Storehouse is a waste of plot in every city that has build wall to lvl 20. |
In your trade city it might make sense. Otherwise I demolished something in most towns, built the storehouse 10 on the free tile, queued the outfitter research, immediately demolished the storehouse again, and for now I use this tile for temporary buildings.
E.g., queue 1000 spears in a temporary spearmaker, demolish and build temporary brewery, queue 1000 beer, demolish and build temporary bookbinder, queue 1000 books, and so on. Production times in demolished buildings are poor, but still better than nothing. Everybody demolished their "don't really need this now" buildings, check out the hilarious beer prices. IOW, maybe the devs really wanted it the way it is.
Edited by dunnoob - 08 Aug 2012 at 23:07
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Ander
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Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 17:18 |
Brids17 wrote:
How is this any different from the rest of the update? You want a cottage but have no space? Either demo something or don't use it.
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The difference is that you need it only to do the research, you keep getting the benefits even if you demolish the building after doing the research. That is not the case with cotter, once you demolish the cottage, you wouldn't have your cotter anymore.
There are quite a few buildings in this release which are required only to research something, after which you can demolish it and keep getting the benefit.
Suppose with one free plot in your town, you want to build a bladesmith to make obsidian swords. You have to build a spearmaker to unlock spearsmith research. Then you have to demolish spearmaker and build spearsmith which lets you research obsidian spear, which is required to unlock the obsidian sword research. Now you have to demolish spearsmith and build swordmaker to unlock the obsidian sword research and start making the swords.
Since all these buildings are required only at level 1, it is not difficult to build and demolish. Not sure if this was intended to be this way.
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Bonaparta
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Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 16:47 |
Brids17 wrote:
Bonaparta wrote:
Well you are assuming there are any free spots left in town... What about there are only lvl 20 buildings and no storehouse? |
How is this any different from the rest of the update? You want a cottage but have no space? Either demo something or don't use it. You want to make some super awesome horses? Demo something or don't make them. If every single slot in every single city is filled with someone, this update is entirely useless to you if you don't want to demo anything. That doesn't mean the devs need to change it, you just need to except there are requirements for things.
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I don't need cottages, I will buy basic new resources. I need crafting buildings in just one of my cities and I will put them in just one, because all the research is interdependant. The 2 merchant buildings will also be in only one city. I will be able to craft anything and I will be able to trade anything. I will not gather much, but I'm not a gathering type anyway. The only problem is military outfitter, this is the only new must have technology in every city and the requirements for it are just silly. Storehouse is a waste of plot in every city that has build wall to lvl 20.
Edited by Bonaparta - 08 Aug 2012 at 16:47
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Brids17
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Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 16:37 |
Bonaparta wrote:
Well you are assuming there are any free spots left in town... What about there are only lvl 20 buildings and no storehouse? |
How is this any different from the rest of the update? You want a cottage but have no space? Either demo something or don't use it. You want to make some super awesome horses? Demo something or don't make them. If every single slot in every single city is filled with someone, this update is entirely useless to you if you don't want to demo anything. That doesn't mean the devs need to change it, you just need to except there are requirements for things.
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Bonaparta
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Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 15:01 |
Sloter wrote:
I dont see any problem with lvl 10 storehouse.I dont have it also, when
time comes for reserach i will demolish cotage, make storehouse lvl 10 ,
finish researh, then demolish storehouse again and make cotage.It does
not take more then few days to do that.If it is too big problem for some
maybe this is not game for them.
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Well you are assuming there are any free spots left in town... What about there are only lvl 20 buildings and no storehouse?
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Thexion
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Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 12:06 |
Id don't like that in many games everything is chewed already for you. But rebuilding something for demolishing it again is a bit waste of time.
I think atm devs have other problems to solve relating to the release and when they would have a moment for this, people have already fixed it them self's and can be aware of this rule so it is bit annoying but I think we will survive. Its not like the same situation can happen later since you have to build storehouse in new town anyway.
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N. Chadgod
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Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 11:54 |
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This thread is hilarious and I completely agree with Sloter, maybe this isn't the game for some of you..
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It's beyond fairytale, it's inconceivable!
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