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   Oh I agree!  I'd rather have some robust trash talking in the forum :)
But some people take offense and reply with "real" armies, so watch out! :)

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Janders Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New Poster Joined: 02 Jul 2014 Status: Offline Points: 36	Posted: 29 May 2015 at 23:22
	Oh I agree! I'd rather have some robust trash talking in the forum :) But some people take offense and reply with "real" armies, so watch out! :)

twilights Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster Joined: 21 May 2012 Status: Offline Points: 915	Posted: 29 May 2015 at 23:20
	mmmmm maybe we should all remember its a forum about a pretend game...personally its hard for meto obey any rules except the ones outlined by the game and even those are hard to obey....we should be flaming each other! have fun and remember this is a silly game! party on!

Janders Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New Poster Joined: 02 Jul 2014 Status: Offline Points: 36	Posted: 29 May 2015 at 22:33
	My reply is the same as my reply to the question of land claims: Its a sandbox game! People can do anything they want. They can claim lands, demand the entire server sends them beer in tribute, or kill all harvesters within 15 squares. There will be repercussions to any of these actions. In the same way, people can discuss anything in the forums that isn't a ToS violation. They can discuss feelings, labels, whatever they want. In fact, things discussed in the forum or in GC can lead to in-game events. To me its all part of diplomacy. Sadly, I agree with you this means small players or small alliances may need to bite their tongues in this forum, unless they are anonymous! Of course, responding to a forum post or GC boast with a military / diplo attack has its own repercussions. I think most of illy approves of a certain degree of free speech, and someone who attacks those who disagrees with him on a forum might look bad in the eyes of most other players.

mjc2 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Wordsmith Joined: 13 May 2015 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 136	Posted: 29 May 2015 at 21:53
	ok, to answer your questions in order 1. yes, this is a forum you can question anything 2. yes, you can say anything you want in the forums as long as you do not violate the ToS. just be ready for in game responses in addition to replies on the forums 3. yes, if feelings are not considered evidence then why are we all even posting here because everything said here is based on feelings. 4. well first off a discussion cannot become a war until it spills over into the game. a war is a game mechanic and since these are questions about the meta game, this forum is part of the meta game, hence anything you do here can be replied to in game, that is what makes it a "meta game" instead of just a game. and no they cannot censor anyone that is willing to be razed back to the newb ring because someone willing to be razed back is willing to accept the consequences of what they say and can say anything they want. btw these are my opinions and based on my feelings so if you dont agree with my answer to number 3 then just ignore this post and anything i say from here on.

scottfitz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Warrior Joined: 22 Apr 2010 Location: Spokane WA USA Status: Offline Points: 433	Posted: 29 May 2015 at 21:48
	Can we really do justice to this post without first having a discussion about how to properly discuss discussions?

ajqtrz Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster Joined: 24 May 2014 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 500	Posted: 29 May 2015 at 21:40
	This is a discussion about discussions. What ARE the rules? Not what can be discussed but where are the limits outside the limits spoken of in the forum user agreement. Here are some interesting questions: 1) If a speaker takes a position should is it proper to question their motives for taking the position they are taking? In other words, in what ways to motivations inform our conclusions and is it possible for us to be objective enough? 2) Is it okay to call somebody a name if their is good evidence that they are engaged in the behaviors to which the name applies? If I call you a butcher and you slaughter and cut up animals for sale, is that name calling? What about calling somebody a "drunk" when they are always saying that they are "drunk?" Where are the limits to labeling a person with a name? 3) If I say I don't feel you are correct, or I say I feel this way or that about a position, should your feelings be accepted as a form of "evidence?" Should you, ethically speaking, even say something if all you have is how you "feel?" 4) In what ways does a discussion become a war? And if it does, should it spill over into the game? Should people be punished in the game for what they say in the forums? If so, does that not give control of the forums to the larger players and alliances? Can they not censor a speaker who does not say what they say that speaker should say? These are just four questions I'd like to hear your opinions on. You may have other questions on the forums and how they work apart from the formal rules. Do ask and respond as you see fit...within the boundaries of the rules, of course. AJ