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abstractdream 
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 Posted: 21 Jul 2013 at 01:35 |
 allamagoosa wrote:
If they are willing to take money they have at least some responsibility to provide a working product.
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That is a fact, however I would say they do take responsibility. All commerce has problems but compare this to the last time you went through the Taco Bell drive through. They screwed up the order, you complained and they stared at you with dead eyes (my example...I'm sure that we all have our own experiences like that). Maybe they argued with you about it. "The receipt says you ordered it with that." Well, for Caesar's sake, IT'S WRONG TOO, YOU IGNORANT....never mind. At least here, you have options. You can make that squeeky sound and "customers" line up to encourage you. Give them time. Something WILL be done, unlike the above example wherein it is just not worth the aggravation and no one in that entire building is interested in even attempting to fix it much less take responsibility.
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Bonfyr Verboo
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allamagoosa
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Location: California, USA
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Posted: 20 Jul 2013 at 22:34 |
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Dumb question, but i'm still putting it out there...Have you done all the necessary researches to carry out a siege?
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Answer,
Yes, I have all the technology. I have successfully sieged in the past. I just can't do it anymore.
I have now retested this bug with 2 different cities, 3 different armies, and 4 separate siege events.
I even have a screen shot of one army sieging and returning home at exactly the same time. This army continues to ping pong back and forth now from my home town and the city.
I have been a squeaky wheel in stages. Starting out with petitions several weeks ago to this forum thread in the hopes the GMs would take pity and just simply acknowledge I have a problem rather then leaving the petitions "unassigned".
I know no game is perfect. I expect bugs and accept that.
But I also expect a certain amount of follow through and professionalism. Maybe most of you play the game for free but I have given them some funds for prestige.
If they are willing to take money they have at least some responsibility to provide a working product.
-A
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Hora
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Posted: 20 Jul 2013 at 22:12 |
So we get Paragliders next ?! Now I see how we'll travel to BL 
And I have to state, that Illy is one of the more stable games online... there are games with less complexity with far more downtime.
Yes, I myself have some open petitions, but that happens. Most minor petitions often would result in quite some work, and I dare say, those might be seen, filed under "as soon as we find the time", and there they stay 
Of course there also are problems which block important features, thus there should be a way to push those in front of the minor ones... (a difficult task, as everyone sees his problem as the most important...  ).
Updating the petitions, as mentioned by Luna, might not be the intended procedure, but is a way to annoy the GMs into answering... I can imagine a HUGE load of updates as soon as Luna posted this 
Thus... keep on the good work, and perhaps you could do a round of allover bug fixing right after BL and right before introducing Pathfinding...
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GM ThunderCat
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Posted: 20 Jul 2013 at 20:17 |
Not lost, have been surveying Rill Archipelago from above:
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GM Stormcrow
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Posted: 20 Jul 2013 at 19:58 |
abstractdream wrote:
And now, having stroked the Dev's egos enough for one day, I'd like to say one more thing:
PATHFINDING! |
Aieee! He has used the forbidden word that must not be spoken of. Smite him!
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Epidemic
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Posted: 20 Jul 2013 at 18:53 |
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Dumb question, but i'm still putting it out there...Have you done all the necessary researches to carry out a siege?
And for the record, my updated petition just went from NEW to Acknowledged, Under Investigation in under 10 hours.
Edited by Epidemic - 20 Jul 2013 at 18:58
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abstractdream
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Posted: 20 Jul 2013 at 18:21 |
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And now, having stroked the Dev's egos enough for one day, I'd like to say one more thing:
PATHFINDING!
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Bonfyr Verboo
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abstractdream
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Posted: 20 Jul 2013 at 18:19 |
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I've only seen one player post on here about an issue that directly affects said player. Everything else is second hand at best.
A, I must say, if what you say is true (and I have no doubt it is) you have a legit beef. Not being able to carry out a siege to one of the two intended outcomes is indeed a big deal. If you are being overlooked, I would bet that ends here. If there is something else causing the delay in fixing this, not enough information from your end for example, I would hope the Dev team would respond and ask for more info. If worse comes to worse they could spectate as you attempt to replicate the issue. Surely something can be done. I think you have probably done all you can but don't let up. "Squeaky wheel" and all that, ya know?
Just remember no system is flawless. Personally, I believe the Dev team is doing the best job they know how. This is not the kinda work one would do if ones main goal was to climb the corporate ladder. There has to be a certain amount of passion involved to want to do this. I would imagine every failure is taken somewhat personally and this is no exception. Have patience and don't quit.
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Bonfyr Verboo
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Mahaut
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Joined: 20 Jan 2012
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Posted: 20 Jul 2013 at 18:03 |
There is so much more that has been promised in Elgea, shipping, roads, magic etc and of course the ready supply of bugs that I would very much like to see all of those things addressed before attempting something new like Broken Lands - which will in and of itself be buggy as new things always are. Some Vicx players have several outstanding petitions - many of which affect gameplay quite a bit (troops vanishing, queues not starting etc, buildings downsizing when nothing is in negative and full warehouses) and it's very discouraging to players to see the petitions sometimes acknowledged (sometimes not) but nothing done. Difficult to imagine many of the players with long outstanding petitions will bother with Broken Lands at all under those circumstances.
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allamagoosa
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Joined: 17 Jul 2012
Location: California, USA
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Posted: 20 Jul 2013 at 17:49 |
...its a game, dont take it too serious! just have fun! its a great game devs...
I don't take it too seriously. I am simply asking that a bug that prevents me from sieging cities be addressed or at least acknowledged.
I would say it used to be a great game and now is only a good game as they aren't addressing serious bugs. In my case they aren't even acknowledging them so it is fast becoming a game I simply can't play.
It sounds like most people aren't having this experience and I think that is great but don't harp on the folks that are experiencing bugs and are requesting they be addressed.
But don't worry. Unless the bug is fixed I will soon be leaving the game. I am just hoping they address the issue before I decide to leave. Or if I can find a work around.
-A
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