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Poll Question: Is a land claim or a declaration of Homeland better?
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    Posted: 21 Jul 2015 at 23:15
1. No
2. they can as all it is saying is we are settling here. (goes back to number 1)
3. We wont prevent another from declaring a homeland in that overlaps with ours.
4. We will not adhere to a land claim over our homeland and i assume neither would anyone else.
5. As we will not adhere to a land claim over our DoH you can make one we just wont listen to it.


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Now that the dust has cleared from... whatever the hell Stark thinks its doing, and as we await Phoenixfire's execution at the hands of Han, perhaps we can discuss this topic in greater detail.

I agree with Nero and Declarations of Homeland might be a solution for alliances not interested in conflict but interested in the Broken Lands. I think we can agree that Stark doesnt have a DoH, or at least this isnt what a DoH should look like.

So there are a few questions that come to my mind that might help define it.

1. Is a DoH enforceable? If so, unto whom is it enforced and how.

2. Do DoHs have specifically defined borders?

3. Does an alliance claiming a DoH in one area prevent another alliance from claiming DoH in that same area?

4. Can Land Claims and DoHs exist in the same area or are they necessarily mutually exclusive?

5. Can DoHs inhabit No-claim Zones?

Certainly would like as many people to weigh in as possible, especially ajqrtz, who I believe came up with the basic idea initially, and Jejune who of course was the creator god of LCs.
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The three biggest problems with Elgea are
1.) Its overpopulated.
2.) Land and crafting res are hard to come by.
3.) Alliances are spread out into each other.

BL was the Dev's solution to the overpopulation of Elgea. LC-ing is, in my eyes, a way to prevent the same problems from Elgea from carrying over to BL. 


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Has anyone noticed that DoH is quite similar, if not congruent, to Homer Simpson's catch phrase for screwing up? I made a land claim, d'oh!
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this back-and-forth would seem to deserve its own thread. perhaps Rikoo would be so kind as to move it to one, as it's simply a distraction here.
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No we asked to be left alone and for han to maintain the 10 square rule. You responded with "almenly is largely unpopulated so we will settle where we want to" we then responded with ok just leave us alone and then we magically received 50+ diplo attacks in a matter of a week. So we assumed you would not leave us alone so we attacked first before being thrown out of yet another spot on the map.
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Originally posted by phoenixfire phoenixfire wrote:

Yup, that was me. Also I use this name because it uses my initials P and F. 
We went to war then over the same reason we went to war with Stomps. We wanted to be left alone for once, we had been kicked out of two different areas by two different alliances and we were tired of it.

So you then tried to turn the tables and kick someone else out. 
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Yup, that was me. Also I use this name because it uses my initials P and F. 
We went to war then over the same reason we went to war with Stomps. We wanted to be left alone for once, we had been kicked out of two different areas by two different alliances and we were tired of it.
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Originally posted by phoenixfire phoenixfire wrote:

Nope. The DoH is what we are staying with as it is less likely to create conflict than a land claim which is all we wanted from the get go. A small place that we could settle in without people messing with us just because they can.

Thats odd. I seem to recall a small alliance messing with around a smaller alliance because it could.The alliance leader threatened the smaller alliance over settling in a region that was almost entirely unpopulated. That alliance and its leader actually went to war against the smaller over those disputes,  I can't remember the player's name, something unoriginal, but it'll come to me...
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Nope. The DoH is what we are staying with as it is less likely to create conflict than a land claim which is all we wanted from the get go. A small place that we could settle in without people messing with us just because they can.
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