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KillerPoodle
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Joined: 23 Feb 2010
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Posted: 04 Nov 2010 at 20:30 |
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Rugre - my take on this is that Illyriad is not a fast paced, lots of constant excitement sort of game. It's more about building up your presence and strength (while having some fun on the way with NPC's/other players/global chat/tourneys etc.) and then using what you've built to achieve your aims (conquest, trade, diplomacy etc). That style of game suits some people and does not suit others.
In addition this game is still relatively new and that has both advantages and disadvantages. On the downside it means that some of the cool stuff is simply not here yet, but on the upside everyone here has the opportunity to suggest new things and the developers are hugely active in seeking opinion and ideas about what to add next and how it should work.
So from my perspective, this game is already very good but it's getting better and better all the time.
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Brids17
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Joined: 30 Jul 2010
Location: Canada
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Points: 1483
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Posted: 05 Nov 2010 at 01:56 |
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Rugre you may want to look at joining an alliance. This game is largely a team based game and you wont see much action in this game if you're not in an alliance. Not only that, if you do see action, odds are you'll be out numbered. As bartimeus suggested, perhaps you should join Toothless. They're an alliance created to protect new players and help them grow.
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Rugre
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Joined: 03 Nov 2010
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Points: 42
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Posted: 05 Nov 2010 at 18:38 |
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Thanks for suggestions. Call me a stubborn dwarf, yes I do want more action, but don't want to be buying into someone else's fights by joining their alliance. When I do join an alliance it will be because that serves my strategic interest. And when I do, I want my allies to be near me, but I don't want to move to where they are clustered. That is why i need a tool find out alliance villages, from my experience from other games, alliances spread too thin tend to be very weak (and uninterested) in effectively helping their members militarily, regardless off how big they are. Without this tool, it will be extremely difficult for me to choose an alliance to join
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G0DsDestroyer
Postmaster
Joined: 16 Sep 2010
Location: Ásgarð/Vanaheim
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Posted: 05 Nov 2010 at 18:44 |
Rugre wrote:
Thanks for suggestions. Call me a stubborn dwarf, yes I do want more action, but don't want to be buying into someone else's fights by joining their alliance. When I do join an alliance it will be because that serves my strategic interest. And when I do, I want my allies to be near me, but I don't want to move to where they are clustered. That is why i need a tool find out alliance villages, from my experience from other games, alliances spread too thin tend to be very weak (and uninterested) in effectively helping their members militarily, regardless off how big they are. Without this tool, it will be extremely difficult for me to choose an alliance to join
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Rugre if you want to move somewhere where there is almost no one move near my capital Denerim and join my alliance, there are only a few people there and there is only one other person in my alliance there and he is quite new, i can offer any protection you need and any other thing that you need, just a suggestion, check it out, -471,-58 is the location.
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HonoredMule
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Joined: 05 Mar 2010
Location: Canada
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Posted: 05 Nov 2010 at 18:46 |
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If you join a newbie training alliance, you'll gain valuable experience in not only the game but typical alliance behavior. More to the point, you'll not be expected to stay, but rather to use the alliance as a stepping stone for learning about the various human factions and political climate while you prepare yourself to fit comfortably in a future permanent home.
When you join a training alliance, you're not expected to "buy into their fights," but just grow and be an active factor in the game as a whole. In cases like Toothless, military power is primed at all times to completely fight your battles for you, provided you don't start them. Conversely, however, you are expected not to fight, even in defense of other alliance members. Training alliances exist solely to benefit their members and expect nothing in return save that the game grows as a whole.
After all, nobody is happy about all the inactives.
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Kumomoto
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Posted: 05 Nov 2010 at 19:34 |
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Don't apply to Harmless?-- You wouldn't like us. We're spread out and weak... ;)
Edited by Kumomoto - 05 Nov 2010 at 19:34
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CranK
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Joined: 27 Apr 2010
Location: Holland
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Posted: 06 Nov 2010 at 00:31 |
Thats why this isn't a tipical game Kumo
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GM ThunderCat
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Joined: 11 Dec 2009
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Posted: 07 Nov 2010 at 16:27 |
Rugre wrote:
General Topographic Map: http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/uploads/16/illyriad_topography_fullsize.gif what's the point of this info? if at least my village appeared i could have a more correct idea where I am, because right now it is very rough. I think it is a basic requirement for this kind of game, that your villages can be clearly identified in a map, as well villages belonging to another player or vilages from a specific alliance
without this, strategically managing your situation at a diplomatic level / threat analysis level is nearly impossible. and without this aspect of the game, where is the challenge? |
We've just added a high level strategic overview map:
Hopefully this will help
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Rugre
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Joined: 03 Nov 2010
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Points: 42
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Posted: 07 Nov 2010 at 16:34 |
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@HonouredMule: thanks for the input on what is (and is not) expected of a member of a training alliance ... made me rethink the whole thing ... still cautious because might mean I become a target for other alliance ... decisions decisions :-)
@Kumumoto: I was able to figure out the rankings of alliances, and had the pleasure of reading the history of your interaction with that White fellow ... diablito i think ... a long while ago ... highly entertaining :-P. Fully aware of your power and approach to the game ... refreshing btw :-)
Love the new strategic overview map, very sexy stuff!
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CranK
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Joined: 27 Apr 2010
Location: Holland
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Posted: 07 Nov 2010 at 16:36 |
wow.. excelent job guys
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