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The_Dragon 
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 Topic: Illyriad is a Game
Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 21:05 |
 Drejan wrote:
Seams like people in Illy are hoping to have a ideal society here becouse they have not in real. My opinion is: fight for a better society in real and have fun here.
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Lol, Drejan. That is very true.
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Drejan
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 21:01 |
Seams like people in Illy are hoping to have a ideal society here becouse they have not in real. My opinion is: fight for a better society in real and have fun here.
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KillerPoodle
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 20:59 |
Ander wrote:
KillerPoodle wrote:
what does it say that you had to go back 37 years to find one example?
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maybe she went for a famous example rather than looking at the timeline and finding the most recent one? |
BTW - if you consider the example more thoroughly - the only reason Conners gave away the two points was because some mechanic of the game (the call on whether the ball was in or out) was broken and that had given him an unfair advantage beyond his skill at the game. It was not anything to do with the competition between the two players. In fact - if you do some research you'll find out that Jimmy Conners was a master of using meta-gaming (or gamesmanship) in order to win matches.
Edited by KillerPoodle - 12 Oct 2012 at 21:00
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"This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it." - endorsement by HM
"a little name-calling is a positive thing." - Rill
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Drejan
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 20:37 |
bha as you like, i actually didn't like too, play the villain is harder than you think, have you ever roleplayed? but i'm a bit off topic, sorry
The point Gossip is that you might like or not but that was a game, like this is and "you" should learn the difference between a game and real-life. I'm not interacting with anyone of you except about a game.
Edited by Drejan - 12 Oct 2012 at 20:46
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Gossip Boy
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 20:31 |
Drejan wrote:
I will answer in another way: most of them didn't like it at the moment, i did not when i was in the other side too, but made the game more interesting in the long run.
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If I understood correctly the game became more fun for you.Obviously it wasn't that fun for the other guys as they weren't in that game anymore to see how much interesting you have made the game by eliminating them. I don't think people with a sound mind can have fun from doing things which come at the expense of other people's fun.
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Elessar2
[08:34]<Rill> when you've just had part of your brain taken out, you lack a certain amount of credibility
<KillerPoodle> I can say anything I like and it is impossible to prove or disprove
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Drejan
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 20:26 |
I will answer in another way: most of them didn't like it at the moment, i did not when i was in the other side too, but made the game more interesting in the long run. But most of all, that was not me in real...
Edited by Drejan - 12 Oct 2012 at 20:29
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Gossip Boy
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 20:24 |
Drejan wrote:
They did not at all Gossip, i was brutal in my role, but that was a full rp server. After 10 years they thank me becouse of the fear of going outside "Britain" that made things interesting.I played Paladins in other server too. To be fair in ultima you could loose equip crafted in months but no one would was able to kick you out of the game (you could always ress with your statistics).
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I thought you would be more interested in answering my question rather than taking cheap shots 
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Elessar2
[08:34]<Rill> when you've just had part of your brain taken out, you lack a certain amount of credibility
<KillerPoodle> I can say anything I like and it is impossible to prove or disprove
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Drejan
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 20:21 |
They did not at all Gossip, i was brutal in my role, but that was a full rp server. After 10 years they thank me becouse of the fear of going outside "Britain" that made things interesting. I played Paladins in other server too. To be fair in ultima you could loose equip crafted in months but no one was able to kick you out of the game (you could always ress with your stat).
Edited by Drejan - 12 Oct 2012 at 20:23
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Gossip Boy
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 20:17 |
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I completely agree with drejan that fighting a war can be fun but only when both parties are willing to fight not when one side is dragging someone else into a war which they don't wanna fight-thats bullying for me.
Drejan you have stated an example concerning how you defeated some guys in some other game but your relations with them are still amicable in RL.Can you please try to remember and tell us that if both the parties agreed to fight or was it what I call as 'bullying'.
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Elessar2
[08:34]<Rill> when you've just had part of your brain taken out, you lack a certain amount of credibility
<KillerPoodle> I can say anything I like and it is impossible to prove or disprove
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Faldrin
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 20:14 |
Rill wrote:
This is a game. There are ways to play games that make them more fun and less fun for the participants. In the world of games, such things are called sportsmanship. I think many of the reactions you see here are attempts to make comments on the sportsmanship (or lack thereof) inherent in one action or another.
Things like "don't kick a guy when he's down"
"tell the truth" (tennis pros calling their own balls is a good example of this)
Stuff like that that makes it not just a game, but a fun game.
In Illy we have a long tradition of commenting on the sportsmanship (or lack thereof) of various actions. Hopefully we can remember that we are commenting on actions, not people. |
The problem is that people stop wars even before anyone is "down" or had any chance to show "sportmanship". All in all the game still need stuff to fight over that will give us advantages but wont siege people out of the game.
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