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JimJams 
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 Posted: 28 Aug 2012 at 00:59 |
 Rill wrote:
1000 silversteel mined per day times 5 mines = 5000 silversteel per day = 1 piece of silversteel per active player per day, or 10 silversteel per day for the top 500 players. (Not saying this is how it should be allocated or how it will be used, just saying that's a lot of silversteel.) |
I haven't ownership of any of the mines, so, to me, is way TOO MUCH :-)
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geofrey
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Posted: 27 Aug 2012 at 22:12 |
Rill wrote:
1000 silversteel mined per day times 5 mines = 5000 silversteel per day = 1 piece of silversteel per active player per day, or 10 silversteel per day for the top 500 players. (Not saying this is how it should be allocated or how it will be used, just saying that's a lot of silversteel.) |
That's if the Silversteel is being mined at 100% efficiency. I am guessing that currently it is around 30-40% efficiency.
With a well coordinated alliance, i think its possible to get it up to 70-80% efficiency.
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Rill
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Player Council - Geographer
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Posted: 27 Aug 2012 at 21:05 |
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1000 silversteel mined per day times 5 mines = 5000 silversteel per day = 1 piece of silversteel per active player per day, or 10 silversteel per day for the top 500 players. (Not saying this is how it should be allocated or how it will be used, just saying that's a lot of silversteel.)
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geofrey
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Posted: 27 Aug 2012 at 20:17 |
JimJams wrote:
Mogul wrote:
Last two Silversteel mines I scouted where both full (with 1000 units) and no miner on them. That is probably related to very short harvesting time (arround 30 minutes) and fast regeneration. |
I am surprised by the production potential of silversteel mine, if your data are right, and a little upset. May be the devs idea about Silversteel was it would require a community effort to really use the full potential of the mine, but I think this will not be the case, a large alliance can manage to use the full potential with their members alone.
If the production can be potentially so high, Silversteel equipped whole armies could not be a chimera and a war over the mines will be unavoidable. |
Silversteel will be for commanders only. Even if production times could be reduced, the supply of silversteel is too rare. 1 silversteel plate on a human t2 cavalry is only about an extra 15 attack points. What is more important, 15 attack points, or 1 million gold? You could easily sell the extra silversteel to make up for the negative gold you would go into by having an additional 25% cavalry.
Even with just commanders silversteel will remain rare. 3 silversteel per commander, 5 commanders per city, 10 cities per player; that's 150 silversteel per end game account.
Whomever owns the silversteel supply in Illyriad will either become the richest player/alliance in the game, or will suffer the greatest losses in Illyriad history when they suffer silversteel troop losses during combat.
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JimJams
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Posted: 27 Aug 2012 at 09:38 |
Mogul wrote:
Last two Silversteel mines I scouted where both full (with 1000 units) and no miner on them. That is probably related to very short harvesting time (arround 30 minutes) and fast regeneration. |
I am surprised by the production potential of silversteel mine, if your data are right, and a little upset. May be the devs idea about Silversteel was it would require a community effort to really use the full potential of the mine, but I think this will not be the case, a large alliance can manage to use the full potential with their members alone.
If the production can be potentially so high, Silversteel equipped whole armies could not be a chimera and a war over the mines will be unavoidable.
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Quackers
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Posted: 25 Aug 2012 at 16:24 |
This is what it shows for me on the notification. Claristrine: 6 hours 1 second Pyrestone: 4 hours 1 second Deepsilver: 8 hours 2 seconds Iceheart: 2 hours 2 seconds Sharproot: 10 hours Ironstem Root: 10 hours 2 seconds
Edited by Quackers - 25 Aug 2012 at 16:46
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Make it your ambition to lead a quiet life, to mind your own business and to work with your hands, so that your daily life may win the respect of outsiders and so you will not be dependent on anybody.
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dunnoob
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Location: Elijal
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Posted: 25 Aug 2012 at 07:31 |
Trove: 24h, Earthblood: 8h, and then my notifications end. This is ridiculous; I need at least two weeks, those mines are about five days away from me.  Don't use unconfirmed data, it could depend on the race modified by the phase of the moon, or similar (and this is no joke wrt Desert Flame.)
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Rill
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Posted: 25 Aug 2012 at 06:52 |
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Flektrine takes 24 hours to harvest.
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Mogul
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Posted: 25 Aug 2012 at 06:20 |
I would like to find out answers to those 3 questions related to minerals/herbs rarity:
1. Are harvesting times for rare minerals and herbs same for each player race ? 2. Is there some relation between harvesting times and regeneration times ? 3. What are harvesting times for different minerals/herbs ?
I have dwarf and human but I don't "control" any rare minerals or herbs so I don't have many data but I think harvesting times for some minerals could be:
Silversteel - 0.5h ? Claristine - 6h Deepsilver - 8h Earthblood - 8h Daera - 24h Svelaugh Sand - 24h Amar Shards - 48h
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Last two Silversteel mines I scouted where both full (with 1000 units) and no miner on them. That is probably related to very short harvesting time (arround 30 minutes) and fast regeneration.
So if for example Silversteel regenerates 48 times faster then Daera it would mean that 3-5 silversteel mines will produce much more units then 50 Daera mines... And Amar Shards looks like very rare.
But in few minutes Guild Wars 2 starts and so I am now too busy 
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GM Luna
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Posted: 24 Aug 2012 at 10:05 |
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Off topic posts and personal insults removed.
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