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eowan the short 
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 Posted: 24 Mar 2022 at 20:39 |
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profit /ˈprɒfɪt/ Learn to pronounce noun 1. a financial gain, especially the difference between the amount earned and the amount spent in buying, operating, or producing something. "record pre-tax profits" 2. advantage; benefit. Profit can refer either directly to money, or to a generic benefit. You keep redefining trader, narrowing the definition to suit you. The one true scotsman is alive and well, and it would seem he is a trader.
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This is the thread that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some person started it, not knowing what it was, and we'll continue posting on it forever just because...
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Sif
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Posted: 24 Mar 2022 at 19:58 |
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i think traders profit for Wikipedia has a very self expain definition (refers to money i think) if they believe that anyone would doubt them they would say :
Trader may refer to: · Merchant, retailer or one who attempts to generally buy wholesale and sell later at a PROFIT ( this NOT refer to illyriad trading score increase but to the money) i don t say that people that play for trade score doing something bad ofcource its part of the game trying to rise at the score list and i am sure is chalenging but it is not trading for most people |
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eowan the short
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Posted: 24 Mar 2022 at 19:07 |
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How is Profit defined? There are two definitions; financial gain, but also a more generic benefit or advantage. In this case, Thirion's profit is in trade score ranking, rather than financial.
Also, there are three parts to that definition, only one of which refers to profit [Merchant], [retailer] or [one who attempts to generally buy wholesale and sell later at a profit] So, he could be a merchant trader or a retail trader, rather than a wholesale trader Irl, non-profits can be retailers- charity shops for example- so clearly raw financial return isn't necessary.
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Posted: 24 Mar 2022 at 18:44 |
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I won't stop, gotta get forum points somehow. I wanna hit 936 so I get on the top page===>>> this will last forever ???? since i don t reply to your post so why not stop it here . You set your own goals===>>> agree thats what i said Thus winning does not mean you need to make profit with trading===>>> according to wikipedia it does Trader may refer to: · Merchant, retailer or one who attempts to generally buy wholesale and sell later at a PROFIT |
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Posted: 24 Mar 2022 at 16:53 |
This is a sandbox MMO game. You set your own goals. Thus winning does not mean you need to make profit with trading. You can make a profit (as Eowan mentioned) - but you can also "win" by not making (much) profit. I trade mostly for ranking points - which means i "win" in the rankings. There are a lot of different ways to play the game. And a lot of different ways to "win" the game. Sorry to say this - but to me it seems more and more like you have no idea how Illyriad really works.
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eowan the short
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Posted: 24 Mar 2022 at 16:23 |
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You can trade to win; trading for profit is ludicrously easy.
Example: Right now, the spread on wood in centrum is .21 gp. The spread only needs to be .04 to make profit. If you put a buy order up at 0.78, then sell at 0.97, you get an easy profit by just flipping wood. The markets be inefficient, my dude. Go forth and trade. I won't stop, gotta get forum points somehow. I wanna hit 936 so I get on the top page :P
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Sif
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Posted: 24 Mar 2022 at 15:21 |
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Not many care about trade?===>>> i never say that i say ' Not many care about winning ' when winning via trade means making profit from this. i know you was doing this (trading ) what i am saying is that with the corect system you canot trade to win!!! ( being an exeption does not canchel the rule)
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PROFIT · The owner of a trading post, where manufactured goods were exchanged with native peoples for furs and hides. it has start to becoming exhausted this ...... but i can not not have the last post so if is exhausted and to you let that be the last post. |
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eowan the short
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Posted: 24 Mar 2022 at 12:59 |
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Not many care about trade? A very very strange opinion to have; the vast majority of players participate in trade in some way. Crafters will sell their goods via trading, pvpers keep their armies stocked via trade, and builders use trade to fund their vast projects.
Now, there aren't as many big flashy projects in trade- war tends to get the headlines- but there are still people who trade constantly. Keep an eye on the markets and it's not hard to spot people engaging in trade for trade's own sake rather than for production/consumption reasons. I think if you want more people to engage in trade for its own sake, you should focus on the meta-game. Do a big flashy project; run a bank, a courier service, something that draws people in. Be the game you want to play. |
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Posted: 24 Mar 2022 at 12:26 |
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This not goes to thirion or to eowan... i believe they both try to win their game.
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Posted: 24 Mar 2022 at 12:22 |
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That basically killed any player that wanted to play like a real trade market .===>>> well it seems most people don t care about play the game ( by playing i mean trying to win do not say that is a sandbox cause has nothing to do with that in a sandbox you set your own goals to win when in a no sandbox this goals are set by the devs.)
And care more about how to level down its dificalty
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