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Poll Question: Hide and Close (for a period) Centrum and Hope Ridge ?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eowan the short Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 14:42
Three meanings of the term centrum are being used; the hub itself, centrum meaning globally visible trade hub, and centrum meaning the main trade hub that everyone uses.

Players could make any hub a centrum in the sense of it being the main trade hub that everyone uses. Trade hubs benefit from scale; the more users the better the hub is. So people would coordinate, similar to how they do irl.
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trader - Wiktionary

 

trader (plural traders)

1.    One who earns a living by trading goods or securities.

 

 

Trader - Wikipedia

 

Trader may refer to:

·         Merchant, retailer or one who attempts to generally buy wholesale and sell later at a profit

·         The owner of a trading post, where manufactured goods were exchanged with native peoples for furs and hides.

·         Trader (finance), someone who buys and sells financial instruments such as stocks, bonds, derivatives, etc.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eowan the short Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 15:02
No one earns a living here in illy, we exist permanently for free, so the first one doesn't make sense in context.

Second one; retailer
retailer
/ˈriːteɪlə/
noun
nounretailerplural nounretailers
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    a person or business that sells goods to the public in relatively small quantities for use or consumption rather than for resale.
    "the big supermarkets have forced many independent retailers out of business"

People can make things, sell them, and still be considered a retailer. Trader and crafter often go hand in hand
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  Before Centrum became visible to everybody there were players that traded from the difference in prices.
People that didn't want to make a trader whined enough to get Centrum visible  to all .  That basically killed any player that wanted to play like a real trade market .  Now you basically dump into Centrum or a hub in newbie ring .
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sif Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Mar 2022 at 17:02
Thanks for the info ..Nice to know that Salamander. Well for the newbie ring there are plenty hubs closer than the centrum to be used.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eowan the short Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Mar 2022 at 11:56
Originally posted by Salamander Salamander wrote:

That basically killed any player that wanted to play like a real trade market .


In comparison to real markets, this is kinda an odd view. The internet exists; I can know the exact price of a given stock, commodity etc. in exchanges around the world if I want to. Are you really saying that the internet has killed any 'real trade markets' irl?

While traders can make profits out of information asymmetries, it is not the only strategy. In addition to that, centrum doesn't actually stop people from listing things in other markets. Back when I was heavily in to trading, I had half a dozen traders which just roved around different markets checking and often finding good deals.


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That basically killed any player that wanted to play like a real trade market .===>>> well it seems most people don t care about  play the game ( by playing i mean trying to win do not say that is a sandbox cause has nothing to do with that in a sandbox you set your own goals to win when in a no sandbox this goals are set by the devs.)
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This not goes to thirion or to eowan... i believe they both try to win their game.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote eowan the short Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Mar 2022 at 12:59
Not many care about trade? A very very strange opinion to have; the vast majority of players participate in trade in some way. Crafters will sell their goods via trading, pvpers keep their armies stocked via trade, and builders use trade to fund their vast projects.

Now, there aren't as many big flashy projects in trade- war tends to get the headlines-  but there are still people who trade constantly. Keep an eye on the markets and it's not hard to spot people engaging in trade for trade's own sake rather than for production/consumption reasons. 

I think if you want more people to engage in trade for its own sake, you should focus on the meta-game. Do a big flashy project; run a bank, a courier service, something that draws people in. Be the game you want to play. 
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Not many care about trade?===>>> i never say that i say ' Not many care about winning ' when winning via trade means making profit from this.  i know you was doing this (trading ) what i am saying is that with the corect system you canot trade to win!!! ( being an exeption does not canchel the rule)


Trader may refer to:

 ·         Merchant, retailer or one who attempts to generally buy wholesale and sell later at a PROFITWinkWinkWinkWinkWink

 ·         The owner of a trading post, where manufactured goods were exchanged with native peoples for furs and hides.



it has start to becoming exhausted this ...... but i can not not have the last post so if is exhausted and to you let that be the last post.Tongue



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