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Hora 
Postmaster
Joined: 10 May 2010
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Points: 839
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 Posted: 15 Nov 2013 at 20:01 |
...Why not go into the siege stats page, take a note of numbers at the beginning of the war, take a note at the end... and calculate a rough guess at successful sieges... ...wouldn't be further away than most of the other attempts at calculating. 
And all those towns exodussing around can take care of themselves as for war totals IMO 
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scaramouche
Forum Warrior
Joined: 25 Apr 2011
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Points: 432
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Posted: 15 Nov 2013 at 20:22 |
 ToWhomItMayConcern wrote:
HonoredMule wrote:
Greetings all,
Heck. I probably won't even be around paying attention, so knock yourself out. We don't mind rebuilding. Its time for us to stop minding whether you can rebuild. Enemies can be replaced, after all. |
Why is anybody even paying attention to someone who admits he doesn't even play the game?
This reminds me of all the other city building games out there that has one dominant alliance at the top that rarely ever logs in and only participates when they decide to go to war. |
+1 to a newbie (by forum standards) Is this the most revelant post in this thread? I THINK SO!
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NO..I dont do the Fandango!
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Elmindra
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Joined: 10 Sep 2012
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Points: 464
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Posted: 15 Nov 2013 at 20:32 |
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I assume by constantly asking me for clarification on our numbers you mean once. As for clarification, ask your allies who have lost the towns I stated. If they can't keep track then I suppose they won't miss them.
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Salararius
Postmaster
Joined: 26 Sep 2011
Location: USA
Status: Offline
Points: 519
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Posted: 15 Nov 2013 at 20:56 |
H? threatened to destroy cities of anyone destroying H? cities. You're surprised that no one will give you stats on H? cities destroyed?
Eurik lost 4-5 cities Tegos is on the siege page, that player has lost 1-2 cities (plus the one under siege).
That is 5-7 H? cities razed that I'm aware of. Kumo only knows of 7? I'm on the other corner of the map, far from the action. Do I really know of every lost H? city? I can also read the siege page. I see BigBadBlackBart has 3 cities under siege and has potentially already lost one. What did he do? He didn't siege Eurik's cities so that leaves only 3 H? cities lost and you are trying to take 4 of his. The math is simple.
I didn't start this thread. H? can just stuff it if they don't want to talk about their policies and how they are getting implemented.
I don't have any more time for this.
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DeathDealer89
Postmaster
Joined: 04 Jan 2012
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Points: 944
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Posted: 15 Nov 2013 at 22:20 |
If were destroying people who destroyed our cities. Telling us which one of our cities were destroyed wouldn't give us any info with which to use to go destroy the destroyer's cities. So moot point.
The fact that you are saying 4-5 and 1-2 means you have no clue. If they aren't hard numbers who cares. Also BigBadBlackBart has only lost 1 city to my knowledge. So he has 3-4 cities that he can still lose before we violate the policy of coalition taking more from 1 player than anti-coalition has done.
Excellent if you leave then I and others don't have to repeat the exact same explanation over and over. That you refuse to correctly understand so you can pretend that h? aren't doing exactly what we said we would.
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geofrey
Postmaster General
Joined: 31 May 2011
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Points: 1013
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Posted: 15 Nov 2013 at 22:28 |
Kumomoto wrote:
Oozra wrote:
what is the ratio of town razed on both side now ? kumo , still keeping records ?
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Everybody always accuses me of being militaristic or mean whenever I pull out stats, but, I guess, if I'm being asked, then I don't run the risk of being accused! ;)
Here are my latest numbers. Please let me know if you have any I've missed...
The Coalition has inflicted the following:
1 Capture, 24 Razed, 15 Exodus.
vEElar has inflicted the following:
7 razed, 8 Exodus
;)
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This is the best bit of trolling I have ever seen on these forums, and I'd like to take a minute to evaluate how effective this information is at upsetting people.
Firstly, Kumo reinforces a previous promise of being excellent record keepers by delivering his unfaltering stats. Perfect opportunity to tear about his previous claim.
Secondly, he pre-emptively anticipates hate replies about his "meanness" by stating that he is merely answering the public's request. See, he's not mean, he's educated!
Thirdly, he ask for input! He wants your reply. Feed them!
And finally, the meat of the post. The actual numbers. Notice the labels. Coalition on the first, with the impressive stats. But for the "anti-Coalition", he labels them VEELar. Perfect trolling as just the label is enough to bring up a heated debate. Throw in the numbers that don't seem accurate, and you have plenty of room to throw insults.
Now the key to this brilliant trolling, is no matter how you reply, it gives Harmless? authority. Basically Kumo is saying Harmless? holds the official records of the war, please inform him of updates. They want their opposition to brag about destroying harmless? cities on the public forums so Harmless can rub it in their face later. Basically painting harmless? as an effective and fair overlord, and painting their enemies as war mongers who can't control their emotions.
This was yet another brilliant propaganda post by the Coalition.
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Brandmeister
Postmaster General
Joined: 12 Oct 2012
Location: Laoshin
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Points: 2396
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Posted: 15 Nov 2013 at 23:40 |
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Geofrey, the act of score keeping is itself propaganda. I am ruefully amused that you and others seem so scandalized that either side in this conflict would pad their totals, or seek to dismiss the claims of their adversaries. If everyone is so desperately concerned with The Official War Score, I suggest you hire an independent scorekeeper like Epidemic or somebody, pay them up front, and then forward all raze reports to them for impartial verification.
I did get a chuckle when I was called out for basic reading comprehension skills. Like it or hate it, the H? policy was at least clearly stated. The only part that left me confused is whether this is a Harmless policy or a Coalition policy, because I thought that each side already had players who had endured multiple razes.
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Shadar Logoth
Wordsmith
Joined: 03 Mar 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 127
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Posted: 16 Nov 2013 at 00:32 |
Hi Brandmeister,
Short explanation.
H? policy first was that attacking sieging camps was a defensive act. That was around TMM war and VALAR war.
Around Consone war Absaroke helped their friends who were being attacked by a stronger force claiming some sovereign squares from Absaroke friends. Absaroke purely attacked those occupying forces, .... never sieged any off the members that send in occupying armies. Yes, bad words were mentioned on both sides... blabla.
"Stronger force" then proceeded to start sieging Absaroke towns. Consone only then decided to break those sieges. .... read H? rule number one... Breaking siege is defensive act...
Now it suddenly was hostile action?
This was war in short then, and being inconsistent don't help your case if you try tactics like this to often.
I old fart.... but I don't forget.
Even reminded KP and Berlagyle about some other stuff with all due politeness etc. Never could be bothered to answer my thoughts on the matter. Really... doesn't even matter now.... but if you ask me if I find it strange that people don't like/distrust H? .... ???
(This was very short story... please note... I could add a lot more... didn't want to add to the pile)
Have fun
Edited to apologise. These are my experiences with H? and friends. I am not part of Invictus's leadership nor do I have any role in the decision making of Invictus.
WARNING... BLATANT ADVERTISING ABUSAL ... If ya wanna join a clean cut honest to god alliance... there is only one left... Invictus
*grins*
Edited by Shadar Logoth - 16 Nov 2013 at 00:45
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More Orc, less talking!
All that is said is my own opinion. I am not a leader nor voice for Invictus. I will always abide by Invictus's rules.
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Brandmeister
Postmaster General
Joined: 12 Oct 2012
Location: Laoshin
Status: Offline
Points: 2396
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Posted: 16 Nov 2013 at 01:04 |
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Shadar, so let me get this straight: a big alliance at war with other big alliances suddenly changed its policy when it was no longer to their benefit. And then they were hypocritical about it on an Internet forum. Whaaaaat? Shock! INFAMY! Somebody call the MMO police!
It's impossible to take these kinds of posts seriously. My only disappointment so far is that you guys haven't caused the price of beer to skyrocket. Aren't your troops thirsty yet?
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Shadar Logoth
Wordsmith
Joined: 03 Mar 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 127
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Posted: 16 Nov 2013 at 01:09 |
Sorry Brandmeister, your reaction is at the very least disappointing. All of this information can be found on these very forums.
Also, there are plenty of people who remember it.
My current Shadar Logoth character is new. But some will still know I was here just about from the very beginning.
I don't need petty lies etc to make my words sound true.
More people know what I am talking about. But yes, it's easy to deny all this. In your case I suggest you start reading up though.
Have fun.
Edited to offer Brandmeister a beer:  ps... u don't happen to be a lover of brandbier?
Edited by Shadar Logoth - 16 Nov 2013 at 01:14
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More Orc, less talking!
All that is said is my own opinion. I am not a leader nor voice for Invictus. I will always abide by Invictus's rules.
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