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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 2013 at 01:05
Originally posted by DeathDealer89 DeathDealer89 wrote:

Is there any way to have an auto-count of this?  It is extremely tedious and prone to error to do it by hand.  
Like an alliance enters war, and it starts counting friendly cities razed and enemy cities razed?  Ect

I imagine both those numbers are larger than what are shown.    


I would love that!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 2013 at 01:08
Originally posted by Darkwords Darkwords wrote:

Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

Originally posted by Oozra Oozra wrote:

what is the ratio of town razed on both side now ? kumo , still keeping records ?


Everybody always accuses me of being militaristic or mean whenever I pull out stats, but, I guess, if I'm being asked, then I don't run the risk of being accused! ;)

Here are my latest numbers. Please let me know if you have any I've missed...

The Coalition has inflicted the following:
1 Capture, 24 Razed, 15 Exodus.

vEElar has inflicted the following:
7 razed, 8 Exodus

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LOL try counting the cities raised / exodused amongst the coalition (which in your words does not exist) not just in your alliance.  You may also want to include the cities you have promised to exo so as to gain peace for a certain member of yours, or is this not happening?  Should we continue our actions against that player now?

Please answer asap, we would rather your member exo his cities rather that forcing us to do so much damage to one account (especially one you have exploited as a front line fighter), but if you are silent we can only presume you are going back on the peace agreement reached for this member with your alliance.




Did you even read my post before you wrote yours??? Read up... "The Coalition"... those are Coalition losses and wins.

You all really should read stuff before composing your vitriol... I was asked by you and Oozra. And I gave you the data that I have simple as that. And, I have yet to see the 4 that Duke said Shade razed... I can defend every single one of my numbers...

Oh, and as to those who have promised to exodus, I have no way of knowing how many of those are. To my knowledge quite a few on both sides of this thing. I don't think it's fair for either side to go back on our words to not let them exodus just because you want your score to reflect that? Once they exodus, I'm sure they'll be counted...



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 2013 at 01:08
Originally posted by Elmindra Elmindra wrote:

What about the number of cities from abandoned accounts since the start of the war?  I count what, like 30 there?


Good question. I know there are lots of players abandoning accounts because of this war.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 2013 at 01:10
Originally posted by Tatharion Tatharion wrote:

With regards to keeping track of the situation I am offering a fairly easy-to-automate suggestion.

The publicly available live data condensed in the Alliance List tab can turn out to be a very useful input about war momentum for either side.

I tend to focus on Alliance land (sum of sovs) as a yardstick. In a war on global scale, likely to be one of attrition, it will be one's ability to keep and nurture large cities with military sovs that will dictate the speed at which one can replace lost troops...and eventually win the war.

It's easy (I have started this a while back) to keep track of the week-to-week net change in land plots for each alliance at war and to further sum these up for each global side for a very good indication of how things are going.

Those players dropping out of an alliance and/or moving around will induce some noise at an alliance-level but it will tend to cancel itself out over time and while adding all alliances on each side.

Obviously this requires some insights initially, sifting through alliance diplomacy pages on identifying the actual parties at war, i.e. not just "frontline" alliances battling it out but also those (at war officially or not) that procure a "backyard" for resting a while.


Tough metric to reflect war success, as experienced war fighters commonly drop and add sov based upon whatever stage of the war they are in...

Ideally, the devs would provide some sort of automated metric like DD suggested above...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 2013 at 01:19
Also, what is the Coalition?  I would assume TVM is part, since it is home to NC alts and you all declared war on us in their defense.  If that is the case, we have razed 5 TVM towns, 4 DLord towns, and forced 1 TVM town to exodus.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 2013 at 01:23
Originally posted by Elmindra Elmindra wrote:

Also, what is the Coalition?  I would assume TVM is part, since it is home to NC alts and you all declared war on us in their defense.  If that is the case, we have razed 5 TVM towns, 4 DLord towns, and forced 1 TVM town to exodus.


Yes, TVM is part of the Coaltion. Please let me know what TVM and Dlords cities you are referring to (or actually just the player's name). The only TVM razes I have from you guys are 2 of Wonka's cities. What are the other 3 and what are the 4 Dlords cities and the TVM exodus please). Thanks for letting me know!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 2013 at 01:28
Actually I wouldn't mind comparing city count with anyone who is keeping track for their respective alliances.  Either side, its hard to spin city x was razed so I'm assuming we can all at least somewhat agree.

Twilights!  Are you listening I have a job for you :D  Knowing you I'm sure you would love to keep track of destruction.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 2013 at 01:35
Originally posted by DeathDealer89 DeathDealer89 wrote:

Actually I wouldn't mind comparing city count with anyone who is keeping track for their respective alliances.  Either side, its hard to spin city x was razed so I'm assuming we can all at least somewhat agree.

Twilights!  Are you listening I have a job for you :D  Knowing you I'm sure you would love to keep track of destruction.


DD actually knows this list better than anyone else in The Coalition as he is in charge of keeping it updated, so please interface with him...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 2013 at 01:36
so , i asked where in your policy it says you shall pay triple the damage you receive and you ignore my post ?

i m trying to merely understand your policy ... it seem to have a lot of flaws . or did you need more time to come up with a way to twist the truth to come up with an excuse ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 2013 at 01:38
Originally posted by Tatharion Tatharion wrote:

With regards to keeping track of the situation I am offering a fairly easy-to-automate suggestion.

Those players dropping out of an alliance and/or moving around will induce some noise at an alliance-level but it will tend to cancel itself out over time and while adding all alliances on each side.


Players entering warring alliances from outside (at least six by my count) and moving into other alliances to re-arm (god only knows how many) will permanently muddle any automated numbers.
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