HAN B|B STARK Peace

I question larger accounts from outside alliances getting involved...make certain you don't try this tactic in my backyard and it might be time for broken land alliances to start uniting to take protective measures land claim or not...harsh terms..leave the old lands out dated play up north....we got faction play down here..we don't need corrupt play down here! go play amongst yourselves!

Jejune, you are entitled to your opinion, but HAN, as the aggressor in this conflict is paying the price for that aggression.  It is immaterial as to whom joined in.   They thought they were going to take care of a weak target, took a calculated risk and failed.  There are penalties to pay when this happens.   If there were not repercussions,  every alliance would have incentive to attack another alliance and if they failed say "Hey, my bad" and skip out without penalty.

As for not settling in STARKs DoH, it was a consequence of their own actions.  STARK abandoned their LC stance and publicly stated that they would not impede alliances from settling outside of 10 squares.  HAN, showing that they were going to be aggressive,  was required to forfeit that option.  HAN didn't have to ask for peace, they didn't have to accept the terms once they did.  

Bimoda wrote: Twilights, this game is built upon relationships, politics, alliances, confederations and so on.  I don't think that you will ever see (we never have in the past) a time where players outside of an alliance won't come to the aid of others.   I am a true sandbox player.  I have nothing against an aggressive style of play.  But the smaller, newer alliances will need to learn what the established ones have long ago.  You can't judge an alliance/player by their current size.  You need to consider who else might become involved.  You need to politic, you need to have intelligence on the other side, their friends, their friends friends.  You need to know who you can count on.  You need to know who may flake on you.   And that is part of what makes Illy so intriguing. twilights wrote: I question larger accounts from outside alliances getting involved...make certain you don't try this tactic in my backyard and it might be time for broken land alliances to start uniting to take protective measures land claim or not...harsh terms..leave the old lands out dated play up north....we got faction play down here..we don't need corrupt play down here! go play amongst yourselves!

Edited by Han Dynasty - 01 Aug 2015 at 21:54

Bimoda wrote: Jejune, you are entitled to your opinion, but HAN, as the aggressor in this conflict is paying the price for that aggression.  It is immaterial as to whom joined in.

Edited by Jejune - 01 Aug 2015 at 21:59

Please don't take this the wrong way or as be-littlement, but neither alliance or the war that you're speaking of even made a blip on my radar 6 months ago.   Neither group was related diplomatically to me or my alliance and geographically, we weren't close.   I do monitor many alliances as part of my duties to Fairy, but to be perfectly honest, at that point,  all the players together in both alliances didn't have enough pop to even equal me by myself, and I'm not a large player.

Han Dynasty wrote: So where were you half a year ago? You're right, you need to know politics. You didn't care about the Han HS conflict that was started by Phoenixfire then because it didn't aid your political agenda.  This isn't someone interfering to protect some poor, down in the dirt alliance. This is a group of players  alliances expanding their political influence. It is as simple as that.