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twilights 
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 Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 14:20 |
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theres alot of sneaky stuff happening that the leaders of alliances are probably not aware of, 250 million doesnt seem alot of gold for a whole alliance and everyone should know that u dont send resources to a siege town unless u prepare for what may come back at you..spells should be added to this also, especially when a neutral casts a mana backed geo to protect...alliances act as an unit, the alliance is responsible for all its members..payment is cost of possible wasted time of harm?..and i agree with the increase....sorry but alliances have to be responsible for the play of its members, it sounds like a costly mistake but very fair
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Drejan
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Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 13:56 |
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Or they just want CE to never do it again?
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HATHALDIR
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Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 13:53 |
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Deranzin, i think you missed my point, H? has asked all CE members to withdraw themselves from any Consone alliance, so i am making a comparison that if a T? member has an alt in H?, shouldn't they by extension pull out of H?, because its not a training alliance?
You can probably take this all for semantics, (god knows we do!), but the point at the end of the day is you guys either want the territroy CE currently occupies, or you want gold to fund your campaign.
So for the sake of clarity, fill in the blanks!
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There's worse blokes than me!!
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EvilKatia
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Joined: 30 Jun 2012
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Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 13:23 |
[/QUOTE] No poop, H?'s policy is issues are handled on their Embassy forum, and it stays there. Every time I've seen it spill over from there to here, it became a cluster-F*, and H? folks have 0 tolerance for it. [/QUOTE]
99% of the time anything going in here become a cluster-F* and not just with H? ur all too right with that !
Edited by EvilKatia - 23 Nov 2012 at 13:23
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Kat
'They have to always turn a forum post into a badly written book that gives a headache and takes your iq points' - AO
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Sisren
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Joined: 03 Feb 2012
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Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 13:13 |
 Hora wrote:
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About forum posting... Yes, there is a lot of rubbish accumulating around the war threads. But for CE to openly declare their neutrality DESPITE nice mails from KP, H?'s embassy would have been the wrong place, I fear. |
That is one sentiment, but it's just not how H? rolls...
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Hora
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Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 12:41 |
Sisren wrote:
Poopnug wrote:
KillerPoodle wrote:
Also - for deciding to post this in the illy forum to try to garner sympathy - the fine just went up.
Have a nice day! :)
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So now H? is punishing people for posting in the forums?... |
No poop, H?'s policy is issues are handled on their Embassy forum, and it stays there. Every time I've seen it spill over from there to here, it became a cluster-F*, and H? folks have 0 tolerance for it. |
Whichever side is right here, H?'s letter isn't a too glorious example for diplomacy...
If KP would have said something along: "Hey, we have found some caravans belonging to you, please explain, and try to stop that as far as possible." I'm sure CE wouldn't have a problem with that. But bringing along a ludicrious ransom isn't the way I'd choose to ensure an alliance to stay neutral in a war  . Why not trying to be nice, for an instance?! It is said to possible win you some friends... 
About forum posting... Yes, there is a lot of rubbish accumulating around the war threads. But for CE to openly declare their neutrality DESPITE nice mails from KP, H?'s embassy would have been the wrong place, I fear.
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Sisren
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Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 12:17 |
Poopnug wrote:
KillerPoodle wrote:
Also - for deciding to post this in the illy forum to try to garner sympathy - the fine just went up.
Have a nice day! :)
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So now H? is punishing people for posting in the forums?... |
No poop, H?'s policy is issues are handled on their Embassy forum, and it stays there. Every time I've seen it spill over from there to here, it became a cluster-F*, and H? folks have 0 tolerance for it.
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Deranzin
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Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 09:51 |
HATHALDIR wrote:
so by extension, every H? member with an alt in T? needs to leave H? as well, or is this one of those "do as i say, not as i do" kinda things? |
"The Chosen Eagles are proud to announce the coming together of The Chosen and The Eagles Eyrie Alliance to become the second wing of the Eagles Empire. The Chosen Eagles are not a training alliance"
Nope ... the differences are that unlike T?, CE is NOT a training alliance and the most important is that T? is not sending anything to H? as far as I know ... and if you want your alt, your friends or accounts you sit for to help you out with crafting cattle for example (like I do), all you have to do is NOT PUT THEM IN ANOTHER ALLIANCE that does not participate in the war OR do not put them in ANY alliance whatsoever !
Wouldn't you agree that it is a reasonable choice to not involve others in such ventures .?.
Also, it is not as if in this game people go around and attack any random fellow sitting idle without alliance affiliation ... too many juicy abandonded accounts exist for those warlike people to attack or steal from. You can attack my friend (considering that you can find him), but hey that is the risk in participating in the war ...
So, I think that the matter is quite straightforward here ... having alts or friends outside alliances helping you is one thing and contains a certain risk, but it is a honest enough idea ... placing alts in other alliances NOT participating in the war and hiding behind that "peace curtain" while in fact you are helping them out with resources and shout "I am peaceful, I am peaceful" to gather sympathy, is quite a different concept.
HATHALDIR wrote:
and 250 million??? guys you have been playing to long, us Eagles give most of our stuff to newbs in our alliances, so it makes it a touch hard to come up with that sort of coin!
But i do beleive Chosen Eagles are intent on Passive Resistance!
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... as for the fine, yes, if you or me ALONE where asked for such a sum it could be an impossible sum, but for a whole alliance .?.
Poopnug wrote:
KillerPoodle wrote:
Also - for deciding to post this in the illy forum to try to garner sympathy - the fine just went up.
Have a nice day! :)
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So now H? is punishing people for posting in the forums?... |
I think the raise was for your failed blatant propaganda attempt, not for "simply posting" ... 
Really, they caught you people redhanded sneaking around in sieges with resources and you name war reparations as an extortion while filling your thread with all that lucid mumbo-jumbo ("terrifying", "trifling", "dictates") .?. Naahhh ... I can applaud your richness in vocabulary, but the synthesis was very "poor" indeed.
Epidemic wrote:
Example, the U.S. was supplying Germany before and while we were fighting them in WWII... |
ehmm that may be ... but are you proud of that .?. I'd guess not ...
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R88
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Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 08:33 |
Ok the only way i can see an agreeable way to get this situation out of the way is for H? not to take on CE (who is Neutral and trying to stay out of the war) is for H? to go for the specific players that helped rather than punishing the entire Alliance. as Aurordan said
Aurordan wrote:
why would you need anyone to inform you that sending weapons and supplies to combatants is a breech of neutrality? It's pretty obvious.
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this is my opinion so sorry if i offended anyone
R88 
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Trelling
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Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 08:08 |
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Resistance is Futile ... we [H?] are the Borg ...
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In a world where data is coin of the realm, and
transmissions are guarded by no better sentinels
than man-made codes and corruptible devices,
there is no such thing as a secret.
Dr Kio Masada
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