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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2011 at 16:48
Originally posted by Starry Starry wrote:

DEVS:  I really wish there were a way to prevent players from suspending their accounts and creating a new one immediately as some are already abusing this feature.   All it takes is a few abusing features in this game to ruin it for legitimate players.


Does to 1-4 weeks that it takes to build up the account to have any amount of troops/diplos not count for something?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2011 at 16:51
Originally posted by Starry Starry wrote:

lol, nice try guys but this is a complete failure.  H? does not siege small players unless they are involved in hostile actions against H?.  There are plenty of small players in H? heavy areas that not only live in peace but receive help from H? members.    StJude, Borg and others deliberately started down this path with hostile actions (moving your cities into an H? heavily populated area very near an H? member).

You dared us to respond with action and we did.    As for small players being sieged, you left out one very important fact; the small player accounts are alts of ICON players that were used to occupy those island locations.    You exploited the new player protection/Tenaril's move by suspending one alt, creating another account (which, of course, put it under new player protection) and moving that new player's city to the exact location of a Borg city that was under attack.   Btw, thank you to SC and other Devs that changed the rule so that new players under protection cannot use this option to move; you can thank ICON's abuse of this feature for this action. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2011 at 18:07
Originally posted by Brids17 Brids17 wrote:

Originally posted by Starry Starry wrote:

DEVS:  I really wish there were a way to prevent players from suspending their accounts and creating a new one immediately as some are already abusing this feature.   All it takes is a few abusing features in this game to ruin it for legitimate players.


Does to 1-4 weeks that it takes to build up the account to have any amount of troops/diplos not count for something?


Obviously you miss the point.   There are a few players that are taking advantage of the suspension account feature as a means of playing this game.    They create alts, start problems with that account and when it comes under attack they suspend it and create a new account which, of course, is under new player protection.  I am very sure that was not the intention of the Devs when they made that feature available to the players.  In the above case, they were exploiting the ability to move that protected city into the middle of our ops.   The Devs have since changed the ability to move when a new account is under new player protection.     :D

Edit:   The Devs have been incredible about listening to our requests for game enhancements and options; I'm sorry but it really ticks me off when the Devs go through the trouble of implementing our requests and a few players abuse the changes.   


Edited by Starry - 30 Oct 2011 at 18:26
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2011 at 18:34
LOL, what a charade...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2011 at 18:39
Originally posted by Starry Starry wrote:


Edit:   The Devs have been incredible about listening to our requests for game enhancements and options; I'm sorry but it really ticks me off when the Devs go through the trouble of implementing our requests and a few players abuse the changes.   

tbh, when we saw this being used it was with a wry smile rather than any kind of annoyance on our part.

The thing about building a sandbox game is that people will always find ways to use legitimate ingame rulesets to their advantage in ways that were unanticipated by us, and we know in our heart-of-hearts that we will never adequately contemplate every possible usage or rule-combos that laterally-thinking players will come up with.  

We very much appreciate the demonstration of lateral thinking that goes on by all players - it simply serves to spur us to improve the gameplay rulesets, as we did in this instance.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2011 at 18:40
People were able to do that without the ability to suspend their own account anyway. All they had to do was send a petition to ask for the account to be closed then start another one. They didn't even have to wait until said account was closed as long as they didn't sign back into it. I don't really see how this changes anything.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2011 at 18:51
Well then Brids, one of two things will happen in this game:   the Devs will have to spend time policing for multi accounts (which is already being abused and growing daily) instead of working on game enhancements and new features , or the game will end up being abusing by multis.    I've seen too many PvP games ruined by not enforcing the multi player rules.    

It will be interesting to see how the multi issue is handled in the future.   :)

SC -  Glad to hear our ops exposed an exploit and thank you again for addressing it.  :)    We're all approaching this game with a creative mind.  :D 


Edited by Starry - 31 Oct 2011 at 01:44
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2011 at 21:04
Lets be honest, there's plenty of other exploits going on in this game and H has mastered quite a few of them ( I am not criticizing here ), sure this latest tactic is annoying I'm sure but seriously, complaining about it expecting the devs to change or remove the tactic is a bit rich don't you think? I agree wholeheartedly that the system is being used in an underhanded manner (can't keep you out of it things mana. Lol) and some sort of restriction needs to be contemplated but complete change is unnecessary. The negative food tactic was mooted for change and howled down in the forums by those who were using it, this tactic's ultimate aim is to increase your armies and armies are the main mechanism to maintaining power so no wonder it wasn't a popular idea to those who cherish it the most. Gm Stormy has correctly stated that lateral thinking is a precious gift of those in-game and there is no urgent need to handcuff this. H, you are being challenged it seems, now do as you usually do, improvise and overcome, if you can. Good luck to both parties.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2011 at 09:08
I'm not howling for any rule change - I'm all for creative game-play.

I just posted so you guys understand why some members of H? feel like they need to take steps to insulate themselves from ICON's tactics - and this is not just your average nooby bashing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2011 at 10:34
Originally posted by Createure Createure wrote:

I'm not howling for any rule change - I'm all for creative game-play.

I just posted so you guys understand why some members of H? feel like they need to take steps to insulate themselves from ICON's tactics - and this is not just your average nooby bashing.


Hmmm... Since H? is well known for being creative in their game play one would think they would not target an enemy for being creative with their game play. Can someone say hypocrite? Now type it lol.
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