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Createure
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Posted: 31 Oct 2011 at 16:24 |
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Ok - can I try and summarise your point?
You are saying: H? should not bother about StJude/ICON even though they are setting up in our backyard and have hostile feelings towards us - because H? is many hundreds of times more powerful than ICON and they really shouldn't be worth our time?
If the above paragraph is approximately what you are saying then I must admit - I do agree with you in broad terms - this is the reason I have not been involved myself up 'til now.
But let me ask you one question.
If a horse fly lands on you, do you slap it off quickly, or do you leave it to suck your blood because you are many hundreds of times more power than it?
If you'll permit me to give my answer to my question: Although I do not FEAR horse flies - I do kill them if they land on me.
You see my point I hope?
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Kilotov of DokGthung
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Posted: 31 Oct 2011 at 16:44 |
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icon shall just give up. even on a island, the siege raids will crush their towns anyway
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Aurordan
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Posted: 31 Oct 2011 at 17:24 |
Kurfist wrote:
just because they are smaller then you and will take less time to kill does not make it a war, regardless of what you consider the appropriate definition is.
war/wôr/| Verb: | |
| | Noun: | | A state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state. |
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What kind of dictionary are you using that has the work itself in the definition?
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Celebcalen
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Posted: 31 Oct 2011 at 18:00 |
Createure wrote:
I just posted so you guys understand why some members of H? feel like they need to take steps to insulate themselves from ICON's tactics - and this is not just your average nooby bashing.
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Createure wrote:
Lmao please don't twist my words. Please rethink your logic.
Certain members are H? are ...targetting StJude and co... because they are using this creativity to the detriment of Harmless? - by setting themselves up in a strong position next to H? (who StJude makes no secret of despising).
Like I already said - I'm completely in favour of creative game-play - whoever uses it, whether it be my allies, my enemies or complete strangers. But that doesn't mean I don't have a right to defend myself when my enemies direct their creative tactics in my direction.
| O Creat really don't insult the intelligence of the community - there's a good chap. I am disappointed in you. Perhaps you have been spending to much time with Lawnie  To argue that Harmless? - the most powerful...the most influential alliance in Illyria has "to insulate it self from ICON's creative tactics is proposterous. The community can see that all ICON are doing are settling on islands to reduce the possibilty of by sieged by H? players. Almost all their players have towns and villages that can have little or no effect on the sprawling monstrosities of the H? pantheon (that's a thought I wonder effect H? is having on Illyira's carbon footprint. Hmm I'll bet the methane output must be quite high as well  ) The tactics of players like AB are all defensive. He is just trying to defend himself and survive. This is obvious Creat . Can Harmless? please desginate someone who, at least shows respect to the community, to defend it's actions please?
Edited by Celebcalen - 31 Oct 2011 at 18:02
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Ander
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Posted: 31 Oct 2011 at 18:04 |
Createure wrote:
You are saying: H? should not bother about StJude/ICON even though they are setting up in our backyard and have hostile feelings towards us - because H? is many hundreds of times more powerful than ICON and they really shouldn't be worth our time?
| Was I saying that? I was only asking if you guys are afraid to let him go.
Createure wrote:
If a horse fly lands on you, do you slap it off quickly, or do you leave it to suck your blood because you are many hundreds of times more power than it?
If you'll permit me to give my answer to my question: Although I do not FEAR horse flies - I do kill them if they land on me.
You see my point I hope?
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A horsefly landing on me is very much different from a Horsefly "taking up a strong position near me". And slapping off a horsefly is different from chasing it half way round the globe.
i asked that question because i found your wordings a little strange. 
Happy StJude bashing!
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Kilotov of DokGthung
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Posted: 31 Oct 2011 at 18:14 |
Celebcalen wrote:
O Creat really don't insult the intelligence of the community - there's a good chap. I am disappointed in you. Perhaps you have been spending to much time with Lawnie 
To argue that Harmless? - the most powerful...the most influential alliance in Illyria has "to insulate it self from ICON's creative tactics is proposterous.2
The community can see that all ICON are doing are settling on islands to reduce the possibilty of by sieged by H? players. Almost all their players have towns and villages that can have little or no effect on the sprawling monstrosities of the H? pantheon (that's a thought I wonder effect H? is having on Illyira's carbon footprint. Hmm I'll bet the methane output must be quite high as well )
The tactics of players like AB are all defensive. He is just trying to defend himself and survive. This is obvious Creat . Can Harmless? please desginate someone 1 who, at least shows respect to the community, to defend it's actions please? |
1) here i am, not an H? member or anything like that.. but a bunny ear lawyer at your disposal. 2) now now... this aint insulation my dear. its annihilation. that is obviously H?'s personal space, and personal space invaders usually are dealt whit the roughest glows on. to add more to the shame, the parasites have nested themselves on a unsiegable location, in the best tradition of Haxors, to exploit the inability of camping on sea tiles. now the removal of such elements, would happen in rigorous silence by any alliances that have such players in their area of influence. to give even more headache, said players hide behind their size and their meatshields to justify their presence on H? turf, even if no one invited them there.
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StJude
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Posted: 31 Oct 2011 at 18:32 |
Metagaming, Territorial claims and "interesting mechanics" aside.
If Killerpoodle or Honoredmule comes to this thread we at ICON will be willing to negotiate. Not interested in discussions with other parties from H? at this time.
In short, here is what is on the table, if you agree to leave off our smaller players, we will relocate via Exodus within a reasonable time and will cease any and all actions against H? for 1 year. That's the guts of it, we can figure out the details in this thread, and this thread only. No closed doors and no behind the scenes shenanigans. If H? is not interested, then I will be interested as to their reasons why not.
Edited by StJude - 31 Oct 2011 at 18:39
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Createure
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Posted: 31 Oct 2011 at 18:34 |
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I read Celebs comments as "Poor little ICON are just trying to live in peace on an island - safe from the big nasty H?." - an argument that has been used before in this thread.
- To that argument I have already responded in a previous post: ICON are not just setting up on any old islands - they have moved across the map to set up on islands right on H? doorstep - why? Perhaps to StJude+co. have convenient spot to annoy us with minor (but nevertheless irritating) actions like diplo hits and magic while being free from the repercussions of seige.
@Ander: I was not quoting you - like I said that was simply my interpretation of what you said - basically just how I understood you. You were asking if we are 'afraid to let StJude go'? - I have already answered you via a little allegory - just because we don't fear StJude doesn't mean we have to to ignore him when he goes out of his way to annoy us.
Edit: @Jude - I'll make sure the directorship is aware of your propsal.
Edited by Createure - 31 Oct 2011 at 18:49
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Ander
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Posted: 31 Oct 2011 at 18:57 |
Createure wrote:
You made a comment about us chasing ICON around the world? That is exactly what we haven't done - we are slapping that horse fly because it has landed right next to us. If it flies off we aren't going to be bothered chasing it.
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Sure Createure. Jude had 5 cities and 4 of them were razed. This gave me an impression that H would chase ICON no matter where they settled. Maybe I was wrong.
Seems like they have given their word to fly off anyways. I really hope things gets settled.
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StJude
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Posted: 31 Oct 2011 at 18:58 |
Createure wrote:
Edit: @Jude - I'll make sure the directorship is aware of your propsal.
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Thank you.
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