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Rill 
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Player Council - Geographer Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 6903 |
 Posted: 09 May 2012 at 04:24 |
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Precisely, TD. H? got what they wanted. But it's not enough. They have to demand a final "screw you" from someone who was impudent enough to suggest that they should have used diplomatic channels to accomplish their goal.
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Rill
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Player Council - Geographer Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 6903 |
Posted: 09 May 2012 at 04:22 |
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Starry, you are the one who is trying to make this about me, because I am the one who is speaking against Harmless?'s unfair demands. You seek to discredit my ideas by suggesting this is about me creating drama. I believe my ideas as expressed here stand that test. H? was not shy in going to the forum when it had a dispute with Valar that led to war. I seem to recall that there were no complaints from H? when I spoke in support of your actions on that occasion. So I should only be allowed to speak when I agree with you? This matter is not just about Valar and H?. It's about justice, and it's about whether the dominant force on the server can act as a responsible custodian of that power, or whether it will act in a corrupt manner, taking advantage of its power to bully and exploit those who are weaker. It is about me because if this is the standard H? is going to set for its behavior, given that I cannot reasonably resist your power, my only choice will be to leave. This is about the fact that this is a game that we share, and a community that I care about, a community that has been fostered by the values of H? and many other veterans. A community whose culture is worth respect, is worth preserving. This is about all of us.
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The_Dude
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Posted: 09 May 2012 at 04:18 |
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Starry,
I understand that this is not a debate. TD
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Starry
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Posted: 09 May 2012 at 04:16 |
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lmao Rill, you really are a drama queen, if the topic isn't about you, then you make sure to make it so. Another example of why I seldom post on this forum, this matter is between Valar and H? Debate it all you want but you are not involved. :) Edited by Starry - 09 May 2012 at 04:19 |
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CEO, Harmless?
Founder of Toothless? "Truth never dies." -HonoredMule |
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The_Dude
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Posted: 09 May 2012 at 04:16 |
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Oh... and that city is gone now.
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Rill
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Posted: 09 May 2012 at 04:14 |
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Exactly TD. Exactly.
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The_Dude
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Posted: 09 May 2012 at 04:11 |
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y'all know that this whole ruckus was about 1 city of a SUSPENDED account, right?
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The_Dude
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Posted: 09 May 2012 at 04:11 |
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wow
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Rill
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Posted: 09 May 2012 at 04:01 |
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Rill
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Player Council - Geographer Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 6903 |
Posted: 09 May 2012 at 03:55 |
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Starry, I'm with you right up until you demand compensation for loss of troops from army your player sent to attack a town in another alliance. That's where you overstep. If your player had waited and worked out a diplomatic solution, he would not have gotten attacked and lost troops. If Valar had waited on the diplomatic solution instead of sending troops to break the siege, the Valar player would not have lost troops.
Both sides erred. Both could have improved how they handled the situation. Both sides suffered losses and hopefully will have learned something for next time. The gracious and mature thing to do in this situation would be to mutually apologize and move on. The petty and vindictive thing to do is the course of action H? has taken. It's not too late to change it though.
Edited by Rill - 09 May 2012 at 03:56 |
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