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PirateKing 
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Joined: 23 Sep 2011 Location: ~South Seas~ Status: Offline Points: 225 |
 Posted: 09 May 2012 at 07:10 |
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Aarrrr! What be all this ruckus!
Is it just me? What is going on?  My head is spinning over all this.I can see the validity of both sides, but hasn't this whole thing gone too far? Actually, shouldn't this whole thing have gone differently? e.g. One = Malpherion to Harmless: "I see that X player is now suspended. Since his town is rather close and there have been some issues in the past, would you mind terribly if I sent a siege to prevent others from claiming it and staying in the neighborhood?" (Oh wait, it seems as though Harmless has apologized for this already. Ok, moving on.) e.g. Two = Valor to Malpherion: "I see that you have sent a siege to suspended player X. Since he was in our alliance, would you mind terribly if one of our members claimed it and then swiftly exodus out of there? After all, there is no reason to destroy a perfectly good town." (It seems from all the reading that this was not done or even thought about. Rather an outright attack was sent. Poor form really, for both the initial siege and the following knee-jerk attack.) e.g. Three = Rill to Harmless: "I see that this whole issue has gotten out of hand and I would like to offer compensation for your players losses. Would you allow me to pay the debt you feel is owed?" (This is probably the most unusual action of them all. I respect Rill for attempting to help in this way, but the firm stance taken by Valor that they will not repay Harmless for their aggression against an active player who was attacking an inactive player seems like both sides are standing on principle. To pay off either side is like a slap in the face when they are standing firm for what they believe in. What if someone paid Rill to just shut up on the whole matter? My guess is that it would be like a slap in the face. Why? Because she feels she is standing on principle.) Aaarrrrr! I know not what's been bringin' about this strange weather, but I best be sailin' before a siege be sent me own way an' me poop deck needs cleaning as well as me trousers! Fair thee well ta ye both and may tha' wind be e'er at yer back! |
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KillerPoodle
Postmaster General 
Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Status: Offline Points: 1853 |
Posted: 09 May 2012 at 06:55 |
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Wrong. On someone who didn't care enough about their alliance or his mates to even stay in the game's city. The player is gone, never to return on that account. They aren't defending a player. They are defending real-estate which is 3 squares from an actual real-life, still involved player and should never have been where it was in the first place. |
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"This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it." - endorsement by HM
"a little name-calling is a positive thing." - Rill |
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KillerPoodle
Postmaster General
Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Status: Offline Points: 1853 |
Posted: 09 May 2012 at 06:52 |
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Nice that you only declare that now. I wonder why you didn't say so sooner. Maybe so people wouldn't realize your posts were somewhat less than objective. FYI - when someone asks you to negotiate for them and you contact the other party - its probably worth mentioning that fact in your communications. As stated in my reply - I don't accept you as an objective party in this and will not negotiate with you. If VALAR want to really negotiate in good faith this time they can contact me direct. KP |
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"This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it." - endorsement by HM
"a little name-calling is a positive thing." - Rill |
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 6903 |
Posted: 09 May 2012 at 06:46 |
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I completely agree, but I think you lack perspective on what exactly it is to have someone walk all over you. Someone attacked a siege army sent without any attempt at negotiation ON THEIR ALLIANCE MATE'S CITY, did not even break the siege, did not send further attacks, you razed the city, you received a large gold payment for the "inconvenience." In what part of that is someone walking all over you? In terms of unreasonable behavior, I ask you again to reconsider who is being unreasonable.
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 6903 |
Posted: 09 May 2012 at 06:38 |
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lol dan, touche! And thanks for injecting a note of humor and perspective.
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 6903 |
Posted: 09 May 2012 at 06:35 |
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As it happens, I WAS contacted by Valar, who asked for my advice on the issue. I contacted some of my fellow Crow Rooks to express my concerns and ask for input, so they can verify that I was asked to involve myself in the issue. I also sent KillerPoodle a mail prior to engaging on the forum.
Rather than acknowledging this, it appears that KillerPoodle is trying to shore up an increasingly untenable position by casting aspersions on my character. Yes, I am an interfering so-and-so, and when I see something that is wrong, I try to make it right. Even if it costs me dearly. Even if it doesn't work. Guilty as charged.
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Aurordan
Postmaster 
Player Council - Ambassador Joined: 21 Sep 2011 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 982 |
Posted: 09 May 2012 at 06:34 |
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It seems H? has found one of the new discoveries before anyone else even realized it was in game. I salute your diligence. Seriously , it is impossible to read that without imagining you twirling a long black mustache.
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Bartozzi
Greenhorn 
Joined: 04 Jul 2011 Status: Offline Points: 96 |
Posted: 09 May 2012 at 06:33 |
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Yeah, Rill has trouble staying quiet when she sees something she feels is unjust. I admire that, personally.
As for the rest of this matter, I tend to respect and even admire H? and their ability to be a gracious power-block; *this* just doesn't pass the smell test, though. Certainly, a lot of your assertions here are reasonable enough, especially on their own. When taken as a totality, though... I recognize you are looking out for your own, and upholding what you consider to be a standard. What I would suggest though is that you're not looking at it from the other side, and applying your own standards from that perspective! It comes across as careless and forgivably presumptuous at best, and smugly self-righteous (not to mention heavy-handed) at worst. |
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Brids17
Postmaster General
Joined: 30 Jul 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 1483 |
Posted: 09 May 2012 at 06:30 |
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What do you think she sent the money for? If it were a simple matter of "we didn't have an agreement" a respectful player would return the money and say sorry not interested. It's fine if you don't want Rill to be a part of it, just send the money back. But that's not it, it's your chance to prove a point about some issue you have with Rill, which yet again is petty.
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KillerPoodle
Postmaster General
Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Status: Offline Points: 1853 |
Posted: 09 May 2012 at 06:21 |
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You really have no clue what you are talking about. Rill didn't "offer" anything. She decided to insert herself into this issue with no warning and no agreement from any involved party. If Rill wants to force herself upon us without consultation she can accept the consequences. |
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