H? and The Crows

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 Aristeas wrote:

 Then tell me, what exactly is the difference between the "real" crows Kumo tried so hard to befriend/exhortate and the ones being assimilated/corrupted by your enemies? 

The difference is not something that I can define or something that I feel that I have the right to define. Only crows can do that and as you can see, Scottfizz objected to that characterism and it was partly (or maybe fully, I cannot tell) withdrawn by Kumomoto, whereupon he explained what he meant by it.

Which I think covers that question. 

 Aristeas wrote:

Nothing
 else than the "real" ones not going into a senseless war with you, as I
 said in the brackets (after telling that it´s an shortening. Mind your 
own conflict here some weeks ago where you defended a fellow H? for 
putting brackets after saying that what would follow would be more or less what have been said and not an exact quote).

Indeed I did and that is why in this case I said that if this is how you understood the topic, then all is fine by me, BUT I think that you will agree that I cannot be called to apologize for something that I do not see in the original topic at all and I consider a misunderstanding.

I can however explain where our difference lies. 

In the original topic (and imho the post by Kumomoto towards ScottFizz validates my original understanding of this thread) the war is not considered as the problem per se, but as a natural by-product of a change in policy/playstyle of some people. On that change is the topic emphasizing that DESPITE IT, noone in H? or our allies harbors any ill will towards the Crowalition as a whole and that we never wanted that war to happen.  

Nowhere in the topic does it say that the people that took up the war banners are somehow "misguided" or that they, as Rill put it, "should come to their senses". Nowhere. It just says that it is sad for us, as a whole, to see that some people chose to take some Crow Wings to war.

It doesn't call them "sad exceptions", like Rill did, it doesn't demean them and it doesn't offer condescending comments on that choice they made ... Just our sadness on the whole issue.

I wouldn't have bothered to comment much on this topic, but, you see, in the last war in many a Consone debate I pointed up and looked up to the way the Crowfed had organized its wings and how it worked and I, for one, still think that it was a good arrangement and that it worked very well for many years and thus I do not like the present situation in the server.

But, like it or not, neither me nor the topic, as it clearly states, do not judge them or begrudge them for their choices and therein lies the difference with what Rill wrote and this is exactly what makes your brief summary of the topic inaccurate, imho.