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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2013 at 06:22
Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

I want all Crows to know that H? has historically had the very closest relations with the Crowalition. There are many, many new players here who may not know the history...

We started about the same time. H? was forced into war by being attacked by a much larger alliance (White & Black). But we won. And we then had peace for a long time. During that time, we developed really strong relationships with all the Crow alliances. H? has always loved coexisting with the Crowalition.

You've been openly harassing them for months, nearly driven one of their Rooks from the game, and openly attacked their allies.  Either you're lying or really bad at co-existence.   

Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:


For the Record: This latest bout of warfare has nothing to do with H? wanting war with the Crowalition. We never wanted any Crow alliances to attack us. Quite the contrary. We have never wanted it. We were happy neighbors while we watched The Crowalition grow from being small to much larger than us. We were happy they were large! We have no issues with that. Quite to the contrary, we helped The Crows grow! 

Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

I very clearly laid out my point in GC. Namely that I was concerned about more and more and more wings being added as it could have a stifling effect upon Illy.

I'll just leave this here...

Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:


If, as folks accuse us, of being jealous of their size, we would have had a war 3 years ago when they were threatening to surpass us in size! If we were jealous of supremacy, we had literally a couple of years to attack the Crowalition and knock it down to size when it couldn't possibly defend itself. But what happened? We helped! We encouraged all the Crows to thrive! In all sorts of ways, including collaborating in tournaments. We still love you all! 

I just want all the real Crows out there to know this, as no single member of H? or our allies hate the Crowalition. Just because a couple of your alliances have decided to merge with or assimilate enemies of ours and declare war on us (is that a surprise when we've beaten Valar now twice in wars?-- I'm sure they dislike us!), don't think that we, as a bloc have anything but continuing love for the Crowalition and what the "Crows" have always been... 

And yet you seem to have a constant misunderstanding of what the Crows have "always" been.  I think we can let them decide among themselves what their group is about.  Or groups, as the case may be.  


Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:


You all have always stood for a magnificent coalition of folks who wanted peace and for Illy to be peaceful.

The fact that a couple of the alliances that used to belong to this marvelous Coalition have decided to take up vendetta war is beyond saddening. It's an absolute travesty. You all were the pinnacle of Peace.

Again, for someone who claims to be talking about history, you seem to have a limited understanding of it.  I would also question how people you claim to have had no issue with would get involved in a "vendetta war".  Maybe there is more to be understood about how we came to be here?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2013 at 05:30
I have always been a bit slow Kumo, please state by name who the real CROWS are? Not just general alliance is you could?

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So why not offer peace?  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2013 at 05:15
I want all Crows to know that H? has historically had the very closest relations with the Crowalition. There are many, many new players here who may not know the history...

We started about the same time. H? was forced into war by being attacked by a much larger alliance (White & Black). But we won. And we then had peace for a long time. During that time, we developed really strong relationships with all the Crow alliances. H? has always loved coexisting with the Crowalition.

For the Record: This latest bout of warfare has nothing to do with H? wanting war with the Crowalition. We never wanted any Crow alliances to attack us. Quite the contrary. We have never wanted it. We were happy neighbors while we watched The Crowalition grow from being small to much larger than us. We were happy they were large! We have no issues with that. Quite to the contrary, we helped The Crows grow!

If, as folks accuse us, of being jealous of their size, we would have had a war 3 years ago when they were threatening to surpass us in size! If we were jealous of supremacy, we had literally a couple of years to attack the Crowalition and knock it down to size when it couldn't possibly defend itself. But what happened? We helped! We encouraged all the Crows to thrive! In all sorts of ways, including collaborating in tournaments. We still love you all!

I just want all the real Crows out there to know this, as no single member of H? or our allies hate the Crowalition. Just because a couple of your alliances have decided to merge with or assimilate enemies of ours and declare war on us (is that a surprise when we've beaten Valar now twice in wars?-- I'm sure they dislike us!), don't think that we, as a bloc have anything but continuing love for the Crowalition and what the "Crows" have always been...

You all have always stood for a magnificent coalition of folks who wanted peace and for Illy to be peaceful.

The fact that a couple of the alliances that used to belong to this marvelous Coalition have decided to take up vendetta war is beyond saddening. It's an absolute travesty. You all were the pinnacle of Peace.


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