GRUJ v. WN

Selissa wrote:  it would be nice if it got shorten to two lines(Which is normally all it actually takes to explain these kind of situations)

Hells  teeth. These diplomatic disputes with their  superlong posts are becoming fashionable in Illyriad. This is brain numbingly boring. Keep it simple, short and to the point. Or better still resolve your dispute by force of arms.

Brids - Go to your strategic map - choose "Warriors of the New" and "Grudge Bearers" from the dropdowns and youll see a distinct border area between them - thats what its basically about. 

Same someone sum all of the above up in a paragraph or two? I'm kind of a slow reader and so I'd have to care an awful lot (which I don't) to read all that.

Telchar just now sent me the mail that I didn't get, that wasn't answered. Here it is:

Hail Stifle

  From Telchar Steward of GRUJ.

     Well met I hope. I would like first to welcome you to the North West of Illyriad. We of Grudge Bearer have long wondered when an Alliance would settle the fertile Greens of Kal Tirikan. We are glad that when you finally came..atho sudden...it was with courtesy, I refer to The Duke's first letter outlining a boundary treaty with GRUJ.

   Secondly I would apologize if my placement of my second to last city has infringed upon your borders. In truth I watched the poulation growing for a while but my only concern was flanking Druchii's city and access to the Factions...should they ever activate that game content. I did not realize the extent of you settlements untill I recieved that first letter.

  Now we come to it...The horse trading. :)  Again thank you for the courtesy in offering us a say in how Kal Tirikan is settled. As borders in games are often fluid and player will interact and occasionally (Barring official Confederation) test each other...We of GRUJ offer to hold the following lands as claimed by The Warriors of the New and thus unavailable for our settlements.

    All the lands of South Central Kal Tirikan herein:  From what we call 'The Faction Line' = xxx/ 695n  between the lines of  -300 and -600.    Hence a square south from -600/695  to -300/695.     'The faction line' itself can only be a rough guideline.  We will try to settle no lower than 700 and yours will try to settle no higher than 690, but the plots may dictate moving a square or two north or south in order to get the best food. All existing settlements above and below this will be considered friendly neighbors..and let alone. This also leaves you a straight path to your settlements in Meilla. 

    I will offer an explanation of these east and west borders.  Your players can settle east and west of these borders..but holding 'Sole and total' claim outside this would likely bring you into conflict with existing players some of whom may be confederated with GRUJ. My reply to the first letter was labeled 'Terms'..perhaps that was misleading. It was just a shortened version of the original letter from The Duke. If it sounded confrontational, and this perhaps explains the manner of Your Strategos letter with the new terms...I apologize. Miss-communication too often leads to conflict.

  In a game where even among those who speak English there are so many variances in 'usage' I would say..he Speaks as The Master of Strategy must. And I speak as the Steward of Grudge Bearer must.

   Our Confederations are not matters we take lightly. A letter from a member of IND or VALAR will be answered with a quick inquery to the players Alliance Leader(s); who in turn will inform us if we should indeed send everything we have to defend them.

    The borders we outline can only apply to GRUJ settlements. And of course only stand at this time..for our part...untill such time as you choose to answer.

    I would ask that you consider Gunfo's position carefully. Here is a solo player who has dwelt in those woods for longer than a year. We made a pact during the Hunters Tourney and he not only honored it but won the Mammoth catagory...the one we had agreed to leave open as 'up for grabs'. If I read your Strategos letter correctly he will be allowed to dwell as is...but cannot build any more settlements in south KT?

    Perhaps I misunderstood. That is why this letter is for the Alliance Leader. In truth I hoped my first letter would be answered with..'here you take basically here...we take basically there...and we spit on our hands and shake!...Sealing the deal with a Confederation. But what will be, will be.

   Congradulations on Your Alliance Stifle, it now has a home bace and is off to a very good start as far as I can tell.

   Again welcome and good gaming,

   We await your reply,

   The Steward, Telchar.

This is the first that I have seen of it. If Telchar is willing, I would like to make an agreement on this. Again, we don't want conflict, we want to avoid it, which is why we drafted up our border agreements. We've seen what happened between Berb and _duQ and we don't want a repeat between us and them.