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Kumomoto 
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 Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 06:43 |
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Edited by Kumomoto - 19 Feb 2012 at 09:38
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Mr Damage
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Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 06:10 |
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The whole subject is in poor taste no matter what the truth is, this thread should be closed without further comment, leave it alone, the game will progress regardless.
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Kumomoto
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Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 04:32 |
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Well reasoned, Glorfindel.
I just, through long experience in MMOs am kicking myself for not taking my normal "STFU until you can prove it" mentality on this one...
Unfortunately, I have found that MMOs lend themselves to serial lying (I guess you could classify this as some sort of sick metagame?)...
So, part of me is going to be really unsettled until I can see some serious proof that there's someone who had cancer and died...
Cause that other part of me really does not want to believe that anyone is capable or willing to pretend to have cancer over a six month period for kicks...
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glorfindel
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Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 02:51 |
I don't think you're biased, Kumomoto. But I loathe even talking about the prospect of imagining that this man's death has been faked for nothing more than some cheap mirth on his part.
After hearing the outpouring of goodwill and fond memories about Amroth as a player, it is hard to reconcile that with the kind of cynicism it would take to do something like fake one's death -- especially given how elaborate the fake-out would have to be.
All of the stories here corroborate that the man was sick for quite some time, and he shared that with other players over a long span of time. He even shared it with me recently in an IGM, and I barely even knew him. I saw that he was unaffiliated and sent him both an invitation to join my alliance and an explanation why. He graciously wrote me back and explained that he was leaving his leadership position to battle cancer, and to go play with some friends in another alliance. He said that he would like to join my alliance for maybe a stint in the future. And he mentioned his cancer so subtly that to imagine he was planting some seed with the intention of sowing the lie of his fake death -- with a player as unimportant as me -- is just too farfetched.
I think in life today we see so many conspiracy theories about the deaths of famous people because it is hard to imagine and accept that they are dead. we humans have never done death very well -- and I think this particular epoch deals with it just about as poorly as any other time in known history. It's hard enough when regular people die, but when public figures die, we really flip our wigs.
For example: if some unknown player died in Illyriad and the word got out, people would be sad perhaps, but they wouldn't doubt the story. Amroth's story is not doubted because he was a jerk who did this sort of thing all the time and no one trusts him. We essentially hope it is untrue, because of Amroth's larger-than-life role in this game, which, in and of itself, is a world unto itself. |
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Rill
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Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 02:45 |
DNFTT. Given that the other poster in the thread on that account was LionHeartz ... the thing speaks for itself.
I so wish that it were not true, I don't want to believe it.
Stages of Grief:
Denial
Anger
Bargaining
Depression
Acceptance
Everyone works through loss differently. Maybe some people express their denial by pretending it's all a joke, that it's not true. I guess I can try to be compassionate about that.
Edited by Rill - 19 Feb 2012 at 03:08
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Kumomoto
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Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 02:01 |
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And, btw, for those of you who don't know my history.
I'm the guy who worked with him and negotiated with him and, when AA single handedly attacked Valar, convinced the H? Board of Directors to heed his call and come to his aid. So only the ignorant can claim bias on my part.
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Kumomoto
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Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 01:57 |
 Rill wrote:
Someone started an account just to post a link to another site with comments that would not have been allowed on this site. Sounds like a troll to me. |
Except for the fact that this site prohibits posts that have to do with RL info. That link had RL first names (minor RL data, I know), but maybe that's how the Mods here interpreted it... The main point is that somebody posted what appears to be an email chain between a friend of AA's and AA about his faking having cancer and how he's going to "out" him if asked. And that was like a day or two before he died, no? I dunno. call me a conspiracy theorist, but I've seen enough stuff on MMOs that I kind of want proof. Does anyone have an newspaper obituary for AA (like we did for Shrapnel)? or a Death Announcement? Any outside of game proof? I am NOT saying I believe this person. But, like in everything, we should not just ignore people just because they bring contrarian viewpoints with evidence that might be difficult...
Edited by Kumomoto - 19 Feb 2012 at 02:16
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Rill
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Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 01:39 |
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Someone started an account just to post a link to another site with comments that would not have been allowed on this site. Sounds like a troll to me.
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Kumomoto
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Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 01:34 |
Rill wrote:
Was a troll, probably deleted by the GMs. Thanks GMs! |
How do you know it was a troll? I read the link to that game reviewing site. The emails seemed legit to me (or they could be legit)...
Edited by Kumomoto - 19 Feb 2012 at 01:34
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Rill
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Posted: 19 Feb 2012 at 01:27 |
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Was a troll, probably deleted by the GMs. Thanks GMs!
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