Game On

Because Faya's and my originals posts, soon got buried by a couple pages of a few people attempting to determine if an insult had been given, it was suggested i re-post this.  Not trying to insult anyone, just trying to salvage any chance of stopping this mob mentality warfare, that is sure to drive many people from the game, if it has not already.

Faya wrote: * CURSE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS FOR OVER 6 WEEKS NOW.  We didn't JUST get involved.  However, our focus has been the same then AS IT IS NOW! Our primary objective has, and will remain the removal of Spirit/Roller from the areas around Curse Cities. Its as simple as that. We haven't attacked any other VALAR city (ok, maybe we had one person attack one by accident, etc). But our forces have had one goal, Spirit/Roller removed from Curse areas.  * I will say, we've (Curse and Valar) had some good battles on that line. They have defended well on some  and others we attacked better. Its been good (so, believe it or not, there's a compliment to VALAR).

I cannot disagree with a single thing you said there.  Curse and Valar both fought a war that seemed to be focused on the objective.  Curse to remove a player they believed had wronged them, and Valar protecting a member they believed was being persecuted for his actions against people, who also have made it clear for almost 6 months they consider Valar their enemies as well.

It was a fair fight.  Curse had the advantage of distance, and knowing where they would strike, and  relative security knowing that Valar was not attacking their own cities.  Valar's main advantage was that we seemed to have more players willing to get involved in defending roller/Spirit than Curse had players willing to attack.  Also, many of roller/Spirit's cities were in good defensive position, making it easier for us to break sieges, even at a considerable distance.  As you said, compliments to both sides for a well fought campaign.

Faya wrote: * I can't speak for the other alliances as to their involvement and their reasons for declaring.. but I will say this... Curse highly respects its confederations. We have had confederations with only a few alliances, one of them being DLords, for a VERY long time. We consider them very very close allies. So yes, we were officially requested BY DLords to declare war to show unity on our side. After receiving that request, the Curse Council discussed it. And it was decided that we WOULD declare but our focus would remain Spirit/Roller. Sure, we will defend Dlords or another ally of they get attacked. But until we feel Spirit/Roller is no longer within our areas, you WONT see us attacking other VALAR cities unless attacked..   * So we didn't just "JOIN" this war... we just made it official (little easier now that we are "red" to each other as well). But again, Spirit/Roller IS OUR TARGET... we have never hid that nor will we now.

It is good to know that Curse will not be attacking Valar cities.  If this is the case, there would be no reasons for us to attack Curse cities.   There is still the matter of roller/Spirit, but I will elaborate more on that later in this response.

Faya wrote: OTHER POINTS: WAR

You made some good points.  Some I may have slight disagreement with, but nothing I think worth mentioning here, they have been discussed enough elsewhere.  Just want you to know I read it, and not taking anything else you say out of context.

MCROW declared on valar as well now, this is past the point of mob rule and now is just grossly unfair, and now i feel that it's to the point that it might ruin everything good about illy and make it worse then evony. 

I am in mCrow, and urge you to read about our reasons in the thread that was posted.

Dakota Strider wrote: Rats gain courage in numbers.

Shouldn't you guys try diplomatic options rather than calling everybody rats.
Understand whats wrong, why so many alliances came together against you? slight introspection is order of the day ;)
Start speaking sense first then people may stand up and say this war is enough and diplomatic solution will come forward

Dakota Strider wrote: To be honest, I did not even know anyone in mCrows.  Or what their beef is with Valar.

Formal announcement is made please check it first.
 

Dakota Strider wrote: Just opportunistic, I guess.  What else is there to say?

so many alliances are against you that very few will get opportunity to fight VALAR, what's so opportunistic about it?

please get the sense of situation correctly. To deal with a problem one needs to accept/understand the problem. Don't let ego come into picture.
I would like to see diplomatic solution fast however when I read posts by VALAR, I feel diplomatic solution is too far, mudslinging is the game that you want to play. bad very bad.