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Sovereign 
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 Posted: 28 Sep 2011 at 17:36 |
 <Squill> wrote:
Sovereign wrote:
<Squill> wrote:
"nor do I see an outpouring in GC of similar rhetoric." It's not GC who has a grudge vs Valar, it's certain individuals who are always on GC slandering Valar. You don't see me having anything bad to say about Valar. So lets get that straight.
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Thanks for being the first to use it out of context and miss the point entirely. As I stated, I am referring to Curse and their alleged reputation. If you would like to provide examples to support Celeb's claim, I would be willing to listen to them. Other wise, I think not only is it unnecessary but also very much unwarranted to even go there. Unless of course someone wishes to make things more personal, which would not surprise me based on this forum thus far.
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No, I have nothing personal against you Sovereign, least I don't think I do? I was just on the forum when you decided to post an incorrect statement that I decided to correct. Nothing was drawn out of context, the statement was just false, as I am sure you think Celeb's statement was false. |
Squill, My statement was " I have not seen pages and pages of accusations or slander in regards to
Curse nor do I see an outpouring in GC of similar rhetoric. " So can you tell me how this part is incorrect please?
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<Squill>
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 at 17:58 |
Well; considering that you are in a forum where those attacking Valar are justifying their actions. I assume you're comment which is " I have not seen pages and pages of accusations or slander in regards to Curse " is referring to this thread witch we are currently posting in which I can sadly say has a lot of accusations/slander vs. Valar is correct however in the same breath you also say that there is has been an outcry on GC so I assume that you are saying that there has been an outcry on GC vs Valar... But surprisingly all negative comments made on GC are infact done by a small group of people. In fact the majority of player have had no problems with Valar, many actually are friends with us. Sure Azreil has not signed many Confeds, but what is more valuable? A alliance partners who values their confeds or an alliance whom has too many confed; so many infact that htey would not value many of them. Thats actually one thing about harmless, they had one confed with Dlords (untill recently I suppose), Ouch --- went way off topic again.
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Sovereign
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 at 18:05 |
<Squill> wrote:
Well; considering that you are in a forum where those attacking Valar are justifying their actions. I assume you're comment which is " I have not seen pages and pages of accusations or slander in regards to Curse " is referring to this thread witch we are currently posting in which I can sadly say has a lot of accusations/slander vs. Valar is correct however in the same breath you also say that there is has been an outcry on GC so I assume that you are saying that there has been an outcry on GC vs Valar... But surprisingly all negative comments made on GC are infact done by a small group of people. In fact the majority of player have had no problems with Valar, many actually are friends with us. Sure Azreil has not signed many Confeds, but what is more valuable? A alliance partners who values their confeds or an alliance whom has too many confed; so many infact that htey would not value many of them. Thats actually one thing about harmless, they had one confed with Dlords (untill recently I suppose), Ouch --- went way off topic again.
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Aye, but I quoted Celeb and highlighted the specific comments and responded accordingly. Perhaps a misunderstanding in communication but my question and intent is to address the accusation that Curse's reputation is contentious and more so then others. So I was asking either to provide supporting documentation to this or avoid the subject matter as it seems appropriate to do so. Hopefully we are on the same page now. Thanks,
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<Squill>
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 at 18:08 |
Yup 
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lorre
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 at 18:19 |
<Squill> wrote:
Well; considering that you are in a forum where those attacking Valar are justifying their actions. I assume you're comment which is " I have not seen pages and pages of accusations or slander in regards to Curse " is referring to this thread witch we are currently posting in which I can sadly say has a lot of accusations/slander vs. Valar is correct however in the same breath you also say that there is has been an outcry on GC so I assume that you are saying that there has been an outcry on GC vs Valar... But surprisingly all negative comments made on GC are infact done by a small group of people. In fact the majority of player have had no problems with Valar, many actually are friends with us. Sure Azreil has not signed many Confeds, but what is more valuable? A alliance partners who values their confeds or an alliance whom has too many confed; so many infact that htey would not value many of them. Thats actually one thing about harmless, they had one confed with Dlords (untill recently I suppose), Ouch --- went way off topic again.
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uhm and so far it has only been valar slander right? cuz ofcourse you are such a little angel noone else has been slanderd right?
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karpintero
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 at 20:11 |
<Squill> wrote:
Many players will be forced out of the game Karpintero, it's this blatant disregard for the foundation that Illy has adopted that there is such a outcry.
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I get you man. I read the thread by E5C4P3 and was thoroughly disgusted with the overall way that Harmless is apparently, IN MY OPINION, throwing its influence around. I have to admit that the Valar side is losing out on the propaganda with only a few people willing to believe or support them. My guts tell me that this war, this overreaction, is highly inappropriate for the actions of a few Valar members.
I read somewhere that Boromir has done nothing to aggrieve Valar, but he is a target because he is a capable player. I can see that the biggest members of Valar are being targeted first. Viktor, jvsv, dots. I have to ask if these players have aggrieved Harmless or their coalition in anyway. These players have invested a lot in the game, only to see it possibly go up in smoke because the anti-Valar coalition is hiding behind the rationale of "taking out the bigger players as strategy". No player has to be forced from the game due to the actions of a few. Don't bundle everyone just because they are in the same company. Shame on you bullies enforcing your overarching, nondiscriminating playground justice in Illyriad.
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Sovereign
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 at 20:22 |
karpintero wrote:
<Squill> wrote:
Many players will be forced out of the game Karpintero, it's this blatant disregard for the foundation that Illy has adopted that there is such a outcry.
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I get you man. I read the thread by E5C4P3 and was thoroughly disgusted with the overall way that Harmless is apparently, IN MY OPINION, throwing its influence around. I have to admit that the Valar side is losing out on the propaganda with only a few people willing to believe or support them. My guts tell me that this war, this overreaction, is highly inappropriate for the actions of a few Valar members.
I read somewhere that Boromir has done nothing to aggrieve Valar, but he is a target because he is a capable player. I can see that the biggest members of Valar are being targeted first. Viktor, jvsv, dots. I have to ask if these players have aggrieved Harmless or their coalition in anyway. These players have invested a lot in the game, only to see it possibly go up in smoke because the anti-Valar coalition is hiding behind the rationale of "taking out the bigger players as strategy". No player has to be forced from the game due to the actions of a few. Don't bundle everyone just because they are in the same company. Shame on you bullies enforcing your overarching, nondiscriminating playground justice in Illyriad. |
Not to advocate one way or another on this subject as a whole, but I do have a question. It is a war. So, if they are not suppose to attack the larger members, then who should they attack; the smaller ones??? Or do they pick only the handful no matter their size and attack them? Right or wrong, attacking those more capable of producing damage is just strategic. Though no single player should be eradicated of course. With all due respect, it is not to either sides advantage to play dumb. I wouldn't expect H? nor Valar to decide to attack the smaller opponents and think there was strategic value in it.
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StJude
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 at 20:34 |
karpintero wrote:
I get you man. I read the thread by E5C4P3 and was thoroughly disgusted with the overall way that Harmless is apparently, IN MY OPINION, throwing its influence around. I have to admit that the Valar side is losing out on the propaganda with only a few people willing to believe or support them. My guts tell me that this war, this overreaction, is highly inappropriate for the actions of a few Valar members.
I read somewhere that Boromir has done nothing to aggrieve Valar, but he is a target because he is a capable player. I can see that the biggest members of Valar are being targeted first. Viktor, jvsv, dots. I have to ask if these players have aggrieved Harmless or their coalition in anyway. These players have invested a lot in the game, only to see it possibly go up in smoke because the anti-Valar coalition is hiding behind the rationale of "taking out the bigger players as strategy". No player has to be forced from the game due to the actions of a few. Don't bundle everyone just because they are in the same company. Shame on you bullies enforcing your overarching, nondiscriminating playground justice in Illyriad. |
At the risk of possibly alienating the few "supporters" VALAR has.
I can't agree with the assessment above. Maybe the other issue that is related to Sunstorm and sov squares is what you are getting at it?
It's a war, PvP can and will be a part of the game, when it occurs, you play to win. This is playing to win. I have no issue with the target selection, I just think that more high fives and congratulations could be thrown around if it were a real 1 on 1 clash of the titans and not a zerging by the Coalition of Five.
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Sovereign
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Posted: 28 Sep 2011 at 20:39 |
[/QUOTE] At the risk of possibly alienating the few "supporters" VALAR has.
I can't agree with the assessment above. Maybe the other issue that is related to Sunstorm and sov squares is what you are getting at it?
It's a war, PvP can and will be a part of the game, when it occurs, you play to win. This is playing to win. I have no issue with the target selection, I just think that more high fives and congratulations could be thrown around if it were a real 1 on 1 clash of the titans and not a zerging by the Coalition of Five. [/QUOTE] Yes Jude. I can agree with you there.
Edited by Sovereign - 28 Sep 2011 at 20:40
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Celebcalen
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Posted: 29 Sep 2011 at 01:17 |
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