Free Tenaril move for expansion

I still dont understand how you can say we are uniquely privileged.  We are both playing the same game, same server, same rules. 

Privileged would be defined as "having special rights or advantages that most people do not have".  Since we are all under the same rules on the same world, I see no advantage or privilege on our end.  On the other hand, being granted a 2nd tenaril for those who have already received the benefit of using one before, would fit under the definition of privileged.  So maybe that's a question you can answer better than I am able to?

We have asked for no special treatment, no added benefits.  I never once said anything was unfair, only that fairness dictates that all parties abide by the same rules.  In the context of this discussion the rule in debate is 1 tenaril per accounts lifetime.

Yes, I do say giving people who have used their tenaril already, and gained the benefit from it already another one because they want "special treatment" is unfair.  Hence the definition of the term "special treatment".  New players do not ask for any "special treatment" in Illyriad and are quite happy to grow and become a part of the community.  All we ask is that the rules stay consistent among all players no matter their length of play.

BTW, there's nothing personal in this debate, I think Rill is great and always very helpful to new players.  Just sometimes its hard when youve been playing a game for so long to not feel entitled to getting special treatment.  I have the same debate with my phone company over renewals and not getting the new customer discount,  but then again I got that when I was a new customer the first time. 


Edited by Gordy - 28 May 2014 at 21:16

This debate is over the validity of each other's opinions, not about issues that need to be addressed. 

Konstant, it IS possible to find good locations for cities now.  I have been doing so for the new people in my alliance.  It might not be possible to find spaces for 100 people all in the same area.  That would not have been possible when I started either.

Rill wrote: YOU are the one looking for the "easy" button here, a completely new area where your already large alliance will have unfettered ability to carve an empire.  You believe that happening to arrive at a convenient moment means you somehow "deserve" an opportunity no one else since the beginning of Illyriad has ever gotten.

I do distinctly remember a discussion in GC a few nights ago only, where Rill specifically said that there were plenty of spaces for newbs to move to, with Exodus and as they grew, even though some had spent hours hunting for possible moves that were outside of the 10 square occupied rule - she said something about 'you only need to form confeds to do this'..... and now she states there was not enough space for them when she started, never mind now, some time along the line... interesting

I may be missing something here, and I am a newb who has yet to grasp even the basics of this interesting game, so please forgive my ignorance if I have this all wrong. However, our 'already large alliance' is made up of at best players with 2 cities only, and those scattered around in the newb rings. We would be at a considerable disadvantage for a long time were it not for the opportunity we may now be afforded, enabling a possible levelling of the playing field to some extent (distances there will be a big issue in any event for those moving across surely?)