Free Tenaril move for expansion

YOU are the one looking for the "easy" button here, a completely new area where your already large alliance will have unfettered ability to carve an empire.  You believe that happening to arrive at a convenient moment means you somehow "deserve" an opportunity no one else since the beginning of Illyriad has ever gotten.

I do not begrudge you that experience.  But I am a little sad that you begrudge me an opportunity to experience it as well.

Edited:  Upon reflection Gordy, your argument is the one that's inconsistent.  You say that your main desire is to have more space.  Well, there's lots of space in Broken Lands.  There will STILL be lots of space even if people are allowed one-time Tenarils.  Your alliance will still be able to get the pick of many great spots.  So if your main concern was having more space, you are getting it whether other people get Tenarils or not.  Why not be supportive of other people who are longtime players also having an opportunity?

Tenariling a single city thousands (for many of us) of squares away from our existing cities won't be all that easy either.  

Less established players will still have the advantage of being able to start many new cities (rather than just one) in the Broken Lands.  Giving everyone one Tenaril just means that those of us who have been waiting for so long won't have to wait even longer to experience the new land.

Again, I'd rather we all had started out on even footing in the Broken Lands. Since the developers have nixed that idea, the least they can do is make the first new content in years available to all without substantial barriers to entry."



I'm confused here Rill, So your complaint is you don't get to start over in BL, and that its an extension and not a completely separate world.  So you could have this new "start over" experience by exodusing all your cities to BL, having the buildings drop to lvl 12, and getting a fresh start at spots and rebuilding.  You'd even get to keep all your researches, which is still a nice advantage over new players. 

Instead you want a free move so you can keep one city to feed the others. Don't your two complaints contradict each other?  Also, how are less established players given the advantage by being able to move their less developed cities somewhere?  And if it is such an advantage, do you think allowing vets to move one of their fully developed cities makes it fair?  Vets already have a huge advantage, even with BL opening, some of y'all have been building accounts for years, and have 6 total accounts with 60 cities, and your complaining that a bunch of new accounts are getting an advantage?  Vets already have good established spots in Elgea, and now the complaint is that you want the new spots too? Is it not fair that new players get to experience Illy the same way you did?  C-mon guys, thats just being greedy.  Please think things through before you complain.

From my perspective, this expansion was sorely needed, and the current land mass cannot hold another 200 players, especially with the 10 spot rule for exodus.  This puts new players and new alliances at a huge disadvantage to established ones who have their own areas already set up. 

The developers obviously want the amount of players in this game to expand, so seems reasonable to make room for new people.  If no more space is made, new players will end up leaving and this game will become stale and stagnant, and believe me if there wasn't an impending land expansion new players would be leaving, solely because the map is too crowded ATM for anyone to move. 

There is still plenty of ways for vets to move to BL without having to be given a second tenaril.

 I think the devs have thought this through, and people were bound to complain no matter what they decided.  So here is my +1 to the devs for seeing an issue that was effecting game play and fixing it promptly, good job.

As I understand it, the purpose for this is to allow existing 10 city players to experience the Broken Lands. 

I think that is something that needs to be addressed before BLs becomes habitable. Let's look at the options: 

- All strategic alliances interested in a BL presence will have begin exodusing to south Elgea ASAP. to get closer to BL. 

- Many players will create new accounts to have tenaril and settlers ready to reserve spots. 

- Day of BL, alliances exodus/tenaril/settle their cities to pre scouted BL terrain. Presumably the more experienced the alliance, the more strategic their city placements. 

- Those with Tenaril still available will use it asap. 

- First come first served exodus rules in place. If another alliance beats you to a BL square, or puts a faster and larger army there, you will loose your city. Tears shall be shed. 
- End result, those willing to abuse the account system will have a huge advantage. Larger alliances could have a huge advantage over newer players, but only if they are willing to loose some existing Elgea lands. The slow moving exodus of cities, all arriving at different times, will result in many clashes and destruction of cities over the first few weeks of BL. 

Give all accounts 1 Tenaril: 
- All existing accounts get to move one of their cities to BL, or to somewhere else in Elgea. 
- Day 1 of BL alliances will be tenariling to pre-located locations in BL to take over as much land mass as possible. Alliance with the most members will get the most land preserved using the rule of 10. 

- The larger the alliance, the more coordinated and experienced they are, and the earlier they log in will determine the political landscape of BL. 

- Smaller alliances of newer players will be vastly out maneuvered. 

- All cities moved will be their original size. I suspect many cities will be fully developed, creating an imbalance for all exodus-ed and settled cities. 

- Any rare resources will immediately be fought over using cities that tenarilled. I suspect massive armies will arrive with the cities. 

- End result, those willing to abuse the account system will have a huge advantage. Larger alliances could have a huge advantage over newer players, but only if they are willing to loose some existing Elgea lands. Everyone will use Tenaril, resulting in the best locations being reserved by existing players and locations. 

- Presumably the demand for land will go up, as everyone works towards their 11th city. We already have a land crisis. 

- Sat and abandoned accounts will be sieged so players can have a head start on their 11th city 

- If the extra city becomes active at the same time as BL, reduces the exodus and encourages settling

- Existing players can settle a new city in BL, with the new players. 

- smaller players will not get the benefit of the 11th city for a very long time. 

- End Result, demand for land goes up. Land usage goes up. May see sat account cities consolidated to active accounts. Depending on timing, may encourage everyone to settle a city in BL. 

- Frees up a city slot for a new city in Broken Lands

- Not very useful if we can exodus cities to BL, as it makes more sense to exodus than to demo and start over. 

What other options are there?