Free Tenaril move for expansion

Gordy, what you are forgetting is that I started on a map that people were already complaining was too crowded.  I couldn't come in with 100 players and take over an area without anyone else being there -- there were already long-established alliance politics by the time that I got to Elgea.  Building an alliance and carving out an area in which we could live relatively peacefully took long years and patience.

Edited by Rill - 28 May 2014 at 19:42

Rill, you have the same exact opportunities here that everyone else has, no one is begrudging anyone anything.  Why would you assume anyone has any advantage over anyone else?  We are all playing on the exact same world at the exact same time, unless there is special abilities given by the devs to players that are not given to others, we are all exactly equal in our opportunities in Illyriad.

I personally ask for no "special treatment" and that we all play the game within the same boundary of rules.  That is why we like this game, and what makes it great.  No pay to win, and no special treatment of people the developers know compared to those they don't.  What your asking for here is "special treatment".

If we move our little cities over, they're still little and we still have a year of research to do, if you move yours over you have all that research complete and just need to build your buildings back up.  You can easily ship res from your non moving cities to the landed ones, while each city exodus's.  If anything, vets still have the complete advantage over new players.  So whats the complaint?  lots of new players have used their tenaril as well. 

So what your saying is that in the 2+ years youve been playing, besides for the addition of your 9 citys the Elgea map has not become any more crowded and no more cities have been made while old ones remain?  Wow, I did not realize the game has become that stagnant, hard to believe the map was this crowded where nobody can really move at all

We certainly dont want an "easy" button, if that were the case why would we all play a perpetual server with 4yr+ veterans?  Doesn't sound very easy or convenient to me, What I do want is a game that is big enough to support the amount of players playing it (and the 5 other accounts they run).  That is exactly the issue the dev's are addressing, and they're doing it the correct way.

Nicely put Rill!      I am also in agreement about getting at least 1 tenaril per account. True that would give the vets a slight edge...but think of it this way,most vets have been waiting for the Broken Land for more than a year. Initially lot of things were being discussed such as ships , more cities etc. However now these changes arent being implemented rather the BL comes just as map expansion

Giving an extra tenarail means that vets bring their massive armies with mostly completed research into BL...this means the big alliances will again take up the best spots and could effectively cordon off an entire region including all those permasat accounts...add to this the current war and politics and its just more of the same stuff....

Rill wrote: Konstant, it IS possible to find good locations for cities now.  I have been doing so for the new people in my alliance.  It might not be possible to find spaces for 100 people all in the same area.  That would not have been possible when I started either. The map is more crowded than when I started and less crowded than when some people who started six months ago started. Gordy, you can't both commend yourself for being willing to start  in the middle of a perpetual game (as I did, only longer ago) and then say that it is somehow an unfair advantage that people who have been playing longer might already have armies, completed research, etc.  Obviously you would like to be far away from folks who have that, so you will be able to get a clean start.  I completely understand that.  What I'm asking is, why, after all these years, should you be uniquely privileged?