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    Posted: 21 Mar 2010 at 15:40
As we all know, next week anyone can attack anyone unless a peace treaty is in place.

This I expect will cause quite a bit of confusion, and so I thought we could toss up a thread and discuss how we all feel about it.

I am currently leaning towards the following policy.

* Military attacks on towns count as acts of war
* Caravans bumping caravans count as market rivalry
* Military attacks on caravans count as market rivalry

To put short, military actions taking place on the map and not in the towns, is in my opinion not an act of war, though it might obviously encourage retaliation against ones own occupied resource nodes, caravans and such.

What are the opinions of the other alliances?

Let's be honest, these things will happen, and a game where nobody fights at all will become dull, but then again..who wants a power struggle this early?

The winner (me clearly) would become rather omnipotent and thats just no fun.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Mar 2010 at 15:50
Originally posted by Diablito Diablito wrote:

As we all know, next week anyone can attack anyone unless a peace treaty is in place.

This I expect will cause quite a bit of confusion, and so I thought we could toss up a thread and discuss how we all feel about it.

I am currently leaning towards the following policy.

* Military attacks on towns count as acts of war
* Caravans bumping caravans count as market rivalry
* Military attacks on caravans count as market rivalry

To put short, military actions taking place on the map and not in the towns, is in my opinion not an act of war, though it might obviously encourage retaliation against ones own occupied resource nodes, caravans and such.

What are the opinions of the other alliances?

Let's be honest, these things will happen, and a game where nobody fights at all will become dull, but then again..who wants a power struggle this early?

The winner (me clearly) would become rather omnipotent and thats just no fun.


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I think you mean impotence.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Mar 2010 at 16:34
The logic you propose is in advance of reality, since peacefull people can launch thieves at each other (or so its rumoured).Confused

So I'm not sure how differentiating events outside town is different from ignoring constant harassment from thieves.

This is a game for liverpudlians.Ouch

but other than that i tend to agree with your categories as stated.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Mar 2010 at 16:41
This thread is on how to handle upcoming mechanics, theft mechanics are already in place and haven't caused any friction or problems other than what is to be expected, as such I see no reason to discuss this here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2010 at 06:16
Also next week it means there will be a lot more things going on in the world besides the top alliances fighting. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2010 at 21:58
I'm trying to decide if you're genuinely interested or just asking for carte blanche to start attacking other people's caravans when everyone posts that they don't consider it an act of war...   :)

More seriously, FWIW I don't think people will be going to war over one resource skirmish but as with all competition - some people will go over the top, things will escalate and a dead caravan today might result in a siege tomorrow.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 2010 at 22:05
Well, above you have our policy then, let people take it however they want.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 2010 at 12:21
I like your idea Diablito. The Knights of the Weald will adhere to this idea from now on - or at least as the alliances Chancellor I'll make decisions based on it, if only loosely. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 2010 at 15:57
Good thing mate. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Apr 2010 at 22:40
I disagree. I attack towns all the time, simply to advance my own empire and rank, doesn't mean i want to go to war. 

I did get a warning that i would be provoking a war against a certain alliance if i continued to attack one of their members, my care factor = 0.

I think considering attacks on towns acts of war is fairly simple minded, if i must be blatant, since it is an everyday normal thing with me. If everyone adhered to this i'll be involved in several wars by the end of the week.

Sure if someone starts blockading you or outright laying siege to your city, THAT is an act of war. But everyday attacking for score and resources? You have to be joking.

I don't really mind if people take this approach, i'm just trying to make sense of it.


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