Refining Sov

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   So, yeah, ive read the other guides and it explains sov in a concrete sense, but not how to perfect it in a real world sense.  Yes i know it depends but I just need to be pointed in the right direction, Im doing this while half asleep so if u need clarification feel free to ask.
As I see it, sov is made up of several different resource flows:
Gold..call it A
Resources...Bw/Bc/Bi/Bs/Bf
Research...C
These are effected by 
Tax...D 
claimed Sov...E
Sov buildings...Fr(resource boosters)/Fp(production boosters)/Ft(troop boosters)
Population...G

So in my situation im trying to achieve
A and Ft as high as possible, B at or above 0 (must have), C at 0 or close below 0 (depending on city, must have) while not sacrificing G.
Bw/Bc/Bi/Bs are mostly so much in the green as to be useless with C running out and Bf a major negative.
My problem is that Im horribly low on Bf because of bad placement especially and C so I have dedicated about half of my E to Frf.  Ive already done all the basics for ABC but need to maximize productivity. 

Where should I set the flows on the equalizer to maximize A and Ft and keep B and C above 0?  While under the stipulations of D being modified 1x or less per day, increasing E is a massive pain, and increasing F can take days.
Will decreasing Frf and the corresponding E end up increasing Bf because of less stress on A and C?
Is the idea to sacrifice A by lowering D to where B and C are unencumbered; when does this devolve into monster levels of negative A?

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BrianN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Wordsmith Joined: 30 Jul 2019 Location: Wisconsin, USA Status: Offline Points: 109	Post Options Post Reply Quote BrianN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Refining Sov Posted: 12 Sep 2019 at 06:59
	So, yeah, ive read the other guides and it explains sov in a concrete sense, but not how to perfect it in a real world sense. Yes i know it depends but I just need to be pointed in the right direction, Im doing this while half asleep so if u need clarification feel free to ask. As I see it, sov is made up of several different resource flows: Gold..call it A Resources...Bw/Bc/Bi/Bs/Bf Research...C These are effected by Tax...D claimed Sov...E Sov buildings...Fr(resource boosters)/Fp(production boosters)/Ft(troop boosters) Population...G So in my situation im trying to achieve A and Ft as high as possible, B at or above 0 (must have), C at 0 or close below 0 (depending on city, must have) while not sacrificing G. Bw/Bc/Bi/Bs are mostly so much in the green as to be useless with C running out and Bf a major negative. My problem is that Im horribly low on Bf because of bad placement especially and C so I have dedicated about half of my E to Frf. Ive already done all the basics for ABC but need to maximize productivity. Where should I set the flows on the equalizer to maximize A and Ft and keep B and C above 0? While under the stipulations of D being modified 1x or less per day, increasing E is a massive pain, and increasing F can take days. Will decreasing Frf and the corresponding E end up increasing Bf because of less stress on A and C? Is the idea to sacrifice A by lowering D to where B and C are unencumbered; when does this devolve into monster levels of negative A?

DeathDealer89 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster Joined: 04 Jan 2012 Status: Offline Points: 966	Post Options Post Reply Quote DeathDealer89 Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Sep 2019 at 22:25
	Open excel input the appropriate formulas and/or download one of the existing ones. Input your city's info and the info for surrounding terrain Optimize for whatever combination of parameters you think are best. All gold, and import food people have done it. All food and import gold people have done it. Balanced approach to try and stay green people have done it. But no one would be able to just up and tell you what the best tax rate and sov claims are for an unknown playstyle.

BrianN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Wordsmith Joined: 30 Jul 2019 Location: Wisconsin, USA Status: Offline Points: 109	Post Options Post Reply Quote BrianN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Sep 2019 at 23:37
	Sometimes an obvious answer is the right one....I do that stuff with everything else...do u happen to know somewhere that has said formulas?

Kimmyeo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Greenhorn Joined: 29 Sep 2017 Location: Farshards Status: Offline Points: 68	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kimmyeo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 03:45
	I think the answer to your question is different for everyone because it all boils down to your city placement, bonuses available, food available, the buildings in your town and your own personal comfort level with being red on something. There is no way around it, if you build a lot of gold burning troops or diplo units. You will be negative on gold and research points. When I have a large number of troops in my towns, I have the tax up as high as I can, they are all a minimum of 60%. I am not comfortable with going negative on food, so I try to never have negative food production. That's me. I am willing to burn more gold than run out of food. I have known players to run negative gold up to the hundreds of thousands per hour in their cities. I hope that helps.

Kimmyeo Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Greenhorn Joined: 29 Sep 2017 Location: Farshards Status: Offline Points: 68	Post Options Post Reply Quote Kimmyeo Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Sep 2019 at 03:46
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